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Aug 31, 2017 21:35 |  #1

Its time to replace my flash zebra external battery pack. I'm in need of faster recycle times. I have a pro sports photographer that recommended the Quantium SC. He said because that's what he has and he doesn't know of other brands are as good or not. So my question is are there any external flash batteries that are as hood as the Quantium SC? I'm an amateur photographer & I like good equipment but $388 for the Quantium is a little nuts for me. Hopefully there is another model that will work as well be be a little cheaper.

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Aug 31, 2017 22:32 |  #2

It is hard to argue with Quantum's quality; however, you definitely pay a premium.

The Flashpoint Blast Power Pack BP-960 (it is a rebranded Godox pack) works with the same cables as the Quantum packs. It is $119 at https://www.adorama.co​m/fpppbp960.html (external link). You could give that a try and upgrade to the Quantum later without having to buy new cables.

Compare the weight of this pack at 1.2-lb to the Turbo 3 at 2-lb for an idea that Quantum is building a more robust product. I own both and the Turbo 3 is clearly a better pack. Is it 5 times better, which is the cost difference between the two? Probably not.


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Aug 31, 2017 22:39 |  #3

pat.kane wrote in post #18441866 (external link)
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The Flashpoint Blast Power Pack BP-960 (it is a rebranded Godox pack) works with the same cables as the Quantum packs. It is $119 at https://www.adorama.co​m/fpppbp960.html (external link). You could give that a try and upgrade to the Quantum later without having to buy new cables....

I'd second this recommendation, and assume you will get a lot more as supporting this choice as well. There was a time when Quantum was the only game in town, a long time, but it's no longer the case and the new kids on the block are doing very good things to compete.


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Sep 01, 2017 05:13 |  #4

Thanks Pat & Cyber Dyne, this looks to be exactly like what I'm needing. I shoot approximately 1000 shots a night at the most. All on ETTL so would I need to purchase an additional battery or would the 1 battery be enough? They say 1000 full power shots but i assume they are talking On manual.

How long of a life cycle do the batteries have?

Thanks again


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Sep 01, 2017 05:38 |  #5

I just re-read the discription they are saying 1800 full poer shots so i think im good for 1 pack lasting the whole game.

I'm still interested in how long of a life cycle the packs have.

Also I see they make a twin power adapter that I can take advantage of both power output wired to 1 flash for instant recycle times. Is this for speedlites 580 ex ii or just for strobes?

Thanks


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Sep 01, 2017 09:15 |  #6

Here you go and is a good deal...https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com ...o_flash_battery_pac​k.html (external link)

This looks like the same one all the Godox and Cheetah bare bulb flash uses. I personally am using the Lumedyne Ultra mega cycler with a DIY batter repack using Sanyo batteries.


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Sep 01, 2017 13:10 |  #7

Ok so what's are the pros and cons between this and the flashpoint I can get the flashpoint with cable for $139 so they are basically the same price.

Any help is appreciated


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Sep 01, 2017 14:33 |  #8

Gary Wiant wrote in post #18442237 (external link)
Ok so what's are the pros and cons between this and the flashpoint I can get the flashpoint with cable for $139 so they are basically the same price.

Any help is appreciated


I think they are the same...just one being re branded. I like these because you can always replace the battery, the actual battery, if needed without the hassles to repack it (soldering and all). I just don't see the need to go Quantum really. If they are powerful and fast enough for those 300w bare bulb flash, they are fast enough for your speedlites. You can pretty much get 1sec recycling time using FULL POWER, instead of 3s. At sub 1/16 power output, a single charge will last you over 2k shots. Remember this, since you are using TTL, the higher the ISO you are using (shooting at night time), the less power the flash uses.


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Sep 01, 2017 17:19 |  #9

Gary Wiant wrote in post #18442237 (external link)
... so they are basically the same price.

Yes, they're both rebranded Godox products. The same can be said for Cheetah Brand L4500 and others.

My assumption is the Flashpoint would be better supported by Adorama in case there was an issue, but I can't say for sure.


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Sep 01, 2017 23:35 |  #10

Gary Wiant wrote in post #18441994 (external link)
I just re-read the discription they are saying 1800 full poer shots so i think im good for 1 pack lasting the whole game.

I'm still interested in how long of a life cycle the packs have.

Also I see they make a twin power adapter that I can take advantage of both power output wired to 1 flash for instant recycle times. Is this for speedlites 580 ex ii or just for strobes?

Thanks

The twin adapter can be used with a Canon speedlight as well as strobes. To use the Canon, you need to get the ProPack cable Cx.
https://smile.amazon.c​om ...fRID=SS5KGNTWXMPQCH​XCRKMZ (external link)

I don't have any data on the life cycle, my own are coming up on two years. It's a well made Lithium ion that went through some revisions, the earliest ones would be coming on 5 years old I think.

Also, if you don't want to buy two packs, but would like a little more peice of mind, there's these;
https://smile.amazon.c​om ...AGKTG1&colid=45GF3D​QUOW8Y (external link)

This is the battery that is part of the PB960 pack. The actual battery swaps out in seconds :)


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Sep 02, 2017 06:33 |  #11

Sounds great PatKane & CyberDyne I'm ordering this the beginning of the week.

My only question is, if these are rebranded Godux flashes, why not just order a Godux off of Amazon? The price is the same at $119? but if I can get the original for the same price as a knock off wouldn't I want the original?

If it is because of better service from Adorama thats great, i do most of my purchases from Adorama anyhow.

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Sep 02, 2017 16:25 |  #12

After getting a few Godox, I personally began buying only Adorama flashpoint. They have great customer service, and here in the states to back the product with their name on it. They are hours away from me by car, and next day with UPS ground. I can call or email and talk to real people the same day.

So in the rare case that you do pay a few dollars more, what you are paying for is better service and backing of the product.

Godox is innovative and very competitive, but dealing with customer service (and manuals) from China poses another layer of difficulty. Plus the Flashpoint stuff goes on sale!


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Sep 02, 2017 21:33 |  #13

CyberDyne, that's it then, as a business owner ( I own a Sign shop) I realize that customer service is worth a few extra bucks, at least that's the way we feel & run our business


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Sep 04, 2017 05:07 |  #14

Gary Wiant wrote in post #18442687 (external link)
If it is because of better service from Adorama thats great, i do most of my purchases from Adorama anyhow.

Thanks

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After getting a few Godox, I personally began buying only Adorama flashpoint. They have great customer service, and here in the states to back the product with their name on it. They are hours away from me by car, and next day with UPS ground. I can call or email and talk to real people the same day.

Thank you - I'm delighted to hear it; we appreciate your business, and that you took the time to comment.


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Sep 05, 2017 19:48 |  #15

I ordered today (online) with the help of Manny and didnt realize until i was off the phone that the 2 to 1 cable was backordered. Hopefully it wont be back ordered long.


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