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Sep 01, 2017 03:55 |  #1

I am still bugged by having to ignore quoted text because the posting quoted, is right above the reply.

If a member does not see or not use the reply button and the quote button is used without shortening the quoted text to emphasize to what part one want to reply to. The quote is converted to a reply post after showing an option to replier to revert this.
Default: YES, please use reply
Option: NO, I want quote the complete text

Multi quote can be exempted of this rule.


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Sep 01, 2017 06:58 |  #2

mmmfotografie wrote in post #18441973 (external link)
I am still bugged by having to ignore quoted text because the posting quoted, is right above the reply.

If a member does not see or not use the reply button and the quote button is used without shortening the quoted text to emphasize to what part one want to reply to. The quote is converted to a reply post after showing an option to replier to revert this.
Default: YES, please use reply
Option: NO, I want quote the complete text

Multi quote can be exempted of this rule.

If I understood you correctly, you want to remove the quote right after when you reply with a "QUOTE" command instead of "REPLY"? If that is the problem:

- when post editor opens with the quoted text:
click/tap that gray undo arrow (looks like)

One "undo" gets you a blank text, just like with a REPLY command.


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Sep 01, 2017 08:17 |  #3

Pekka wrote in post #18442030 (external link)
If I understood you correctly, you want to remove the quote right after when you reply with a "QUOTE" command instead of "REPLY"? If that is the problem:

- when post editor opens with the quoted text:
click/tap that gray undo arrow (looks like)

One "undo" gets you a blank text, just like with a REPLY command.

Mmm doesn't like when people do what you did with your post ... choosing to quote rather than reply ... believing that a quote should only be used when the response comes many posts past the post being responded to.

It is a matter of not wanting to scroll past extra space when reading threads.

Non-issue, imo.


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Sep 01, 2017 09:20 |  #4

........talk about looking for something to complain about......:cry:


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Sep 01, 2017 10:25 |  #5

Pekka wrote in post #18442030 (external link)
If I understood you correctly, you want to remove the quote right after when you reply with a "QUOTE" command instead of "REPLY"?

I think mmm wants the QUOTE button not to start a reply by quoting the whole preceding post. On the first try, QUOTE would do what REPLY does. A member who really wanted to quote the post could then choose to quote it. The reason for promoting this change is that lazy people quote all of a thousand-word post when they want to talk about one sentence in it, and the rest of us have to look at the original thousand words again. This excessive quoting wastes bandwidth, too.

I agree that quoting should be selective. If you need to quote just ten words from a long post, then delete the rest of the post when you quote. I don't know how to make people do this (the question has come up on other forums). I wouldn't want mmm's solution.


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Sep 01, 2017 10:29 |  #6

OhLook wrote in post #18442138 (external link)
I agree that quoting should be selective. If you need to quote just ten words from a long post, then delete the rest of the post when you quote. I don't know how to make people do this (the question has come up on other forums). I wouldn't want mmm's solution.

Then this could/should be addressed another way, at least on desktop. Can't think of an easy solution on mobile.

If you highlight a part of someone's comment a quote option should pop up allowing you to just include that highlighted section.

I would not support any other changes to the existing quote functionality, in spite of people using it badly.


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Sep 01, 2017 10:46 |  #7

mmmfotografie wrote in post #18441973 (external link)
I am still bugged by having to ignore quoted text because the posting quoted, is right above the reply.

If a member does not see or not use the reply button and the quote button is used without shortening the quoted text to emphasize to what part one want to reply to. The quote is converted to a reply post after showing an option to replier to revert this.
Default: YES, please use reply
Option: NO, I want quote the complete text

Multi quote can be exempted of this rule.

I am still bugged by people that whinge about free to use forums. If you feel that strongly about why not start your own forum, that way you can set it up the way YOU want it to work?


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Sep 01, 2017 10:52 |  #8

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18442067 (external link)
Mmm doesn't like when people do what you did with your post ... choosing to quote rather than reply ... believing that a quote should only be used when the response comes many posts past the post being responded to.

It is a matter of not wanting to scroll past extra space when reading threads.

Non-issue, imo.

I missed this part of it tbh, and I agree. Non-issue. I always quote if I'm responding directly to someone. I reply if I'm responding to the topic in general.


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Sep 01, 2017 10:55 |  #9

Colorblinded wrote in post #18442140 (external link)
Then this could/should be addressed another way, at least on desktop. Can't think of an easy solution on mobile.

If you highlight a part of someone's comment a quote option should pop up allowing you to just include that highlighted section.

But who among those inclined to quote excessively will take the trouble to highlight?

I don't deal with mobiles at all and don't know all the ways their display differs from a larger one. On regular computers, at least, when a reply starts by quoting eight photos or a huge amount of text, a notice could come up saying "Do you really need to quote that much?" and recommending an edit.


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Sep 01, 2017 10:57 |  #10

OhLook wrote in post #18442160 (external link)
But who among those inclined to quote excessively will take the trouble to highlight?

I don't deal with mobiles at all and don't know all the ways their display differs from a larger one. On regular computers, at least, when a reply starts by quoting eight photos or a huge amount of text, a notice could come up saying "Do you really need to quote that much?" and recommending an edit.

It's a problem with no easy solution as far as I can see right now. You can dumb it down so some folks stop abusing it, and you make it worse for everyone else.


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Sep 01, 2017 11:47 |  #11

OhLook wrote in post #18442160 (external link)
But who among those inclined to quote excessively will take the trouble to highlight?

I don't deal with mobiles at all and don't know all the ways their display differs from a larger one. On regular computers, at least, when a reply starts by quoting eight photos or a huge amount of text, a notice could come up saying "Do you really need to quote that much?" and recommending an edit.

I just happened to (again) come across an example of what mmm is talking about: http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=18​423278

I appreciate your contributions mmm, but i'm not with you on this one. If it were simply a matter of length I might be more sympathetic to the request.

Pekka has already included a maximum length a quote can occupy, which I think is a good way to deal with quotes of long posts. Scrolling past a single line of type is easy.


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Sep 01, 2017 12:45 |  #12

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18442186 (external link)
Pekka has already included a maximum length a quote can occupy

Really? I've seen posts of several long paragraphs quoted in full. Then the quoter adds a reply of a few words. It's particularly absurd when Poster #2 in a thread quotes Post #1.


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Sep 01, 2017 13:20 as a reply to john crossley's post |  #13

I do not agree with you. I don't want split up people and locations where to discuss.

What want to make the discussions more focussed and not be cluttered by redundant information.


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Sep 01, 2017 13:31 |  #14

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18442186 (external link)
I just happened to (again) come across an example of what mmm is talking about: http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=18​423278

I appreciate your contributions mmm, but i'm not with you on this one. If it were simply a matter of length I might be more sympathetic to the request.

Two people are talking and are each repeating what the other just said, before saying their own say. This goes on the whole conversation and seems to be very tedious me.


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Sep 01, 2017 13:35 |  #15

It really nice to read that you all think that I am sweet by refering to me by writing "mmm" however I do no touching and especially no licking with strangers.

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