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Sep 03, 2017 15:47 |  #16

SkipD wrote in post #18443733 (external link)
I think you've missed the boat about quick release plates if you've been working with only one QR plate. The "quick release" part of the name really means quick changing of devices on the tripod. To do this, you need a QR plate more or less permanently attached to each body or lens that you would connect to your tripod's head. That way, you totally avoid the screwing and unscrewing of the plate as you change what you mount on the tripod.

I know what you mean. But what I mean is I want quick release system not to screw and unscrew the plate to the the tripod but at the same time I don't want a plate to be mounted on all my lenses, cameras all the time as well. So I would love it to be released easily from the camera/lens as well. What I mean is this system, which is not a miracle to produce in 2017 I guess.

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I don't wanna keep or use an allen wrench, I'm a photography hobbyist, not a car mechanic :) As I see Sirui also uses this screwing system which makes me think that K30 or K40 is the right choice for me.

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Sep 03, 2017 16:01 |  #17

strobe monkey wrote in post #18443708 (external link)
The bigger the ball and socket, the sturdier/stronger it will be. I had a Kood BH-55 when I lived in UK (but sold it when I moved here) and it was very good.

I wonder how 40x will fit on my tripod. Will make some internet research to have a better idea, some other guys must have the same setup as my tripod is also common choice.

Talley wrote in post #18443739 (external link)
I'm 100% sirui right now. Unless you have a giant tripod you do not need the K-40x. The 30x will be just fine. I have the K-10x on my smaller tripod and the K-40x on my larger tripod. That 40x is a beast! I have the largest tripod Sirui makes and the K40x fits it perfectly. Make a fist... the K-40x is as large or slightly larger than your fist (I'm 6' with medium/large hands)

Thanks for the photo and the info. I wonder if 30X stays as stable as the 40x when locked?

MalVeauX wrote in post #18443741 (external link)
I'll 2nd, 3rd, or 4th or whatever the Sirui 40x.

Get the 40 and don't look back. The price difference is so little, and you will not have to wonder if it can handle future loads--it will.

Very best,

Thanks. The price difference is not an issue, as I was thinking of the 500$ range the Sirui products will already save a lot of money for me apparently :)

I'll decide either one of the Sirui's and go for it soon.


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Sep 03, 2017 16:50 |  #18

40X is a bigger, beefier version of the 30X. I have a 500/4 II, so I wanted the ballhead with the higher payload rating. And I know my 500/4 II isn't going anywhere when I lock it down on the 40X.


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Sep 03, 2017 17:18 |  #19

I dunno I had bought my K40x first and used it on my vanguard and it looked hideous and was overweight for the tripod itself. There is a .4lb difference between the 40x and the 30x but they hold 77lb for the 40 and 66lb for the 30... both are strong as anything. Even my K-10x held my 120-300 and thats 6.5lbs of lens. And it was holding at a 45 degree and it was locked down.

yes they are all within the same amount of money. The K30x is perfect for his needs... 40x is overkill however both will last a very long time.

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Sep 03, 2017 17:24 |  #20

there is a 5 star review on amazon dot com and with a picture next to a 24-70L lens... look at that one for comparison...


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Sep 03, 2017 17:41 |  #21

You can tell I'm not a fan of Sirui lol. My P-424 monopod will arrive later this week.

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Sep 03, 2017 17:54 |  #22

Robinson Crusoe wrote in post #18443625 (external link)
Thanks for the help.

I can't buy second hand as I'm in Turkey. And whatever I buy a friend coming from China will bring to me next week. In Turkey it's impossible to find anything, and when I find I need to pay double the price. Anyway, that Sirui has all good comments as I see, I may go for it. Trying to understand if I should go for the 40x or if 30x will be enough for my needs.


40X is one seriously powerful head,. unless you have a set of $800 legs to put it on and an 8 pound super telephoto or a medium format rig, the K30 is a better choice by far.

It really depends on your tripod, but I'm guessing based on the Manfotto that you are coming from that you don;t have anything near a set of legs that would make the K40 advantageous.


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Sep 03, 2017 18:07 |  #23

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18443826 (external link)
40X is one seriously powerful head,. unless you have a set of $800 legs to put it on and an 8 pound super telephoto or a medium format rig, the K30 is a better choice by far.

It really depends on your tripod, but I'm guessing based on the Manfotto that you are coming from that you don;t have anything near a set of legs that would make the K40 advantageous.

Thats what I was trying to say but you said it better. My legs hold the 40x but for that manfrotto the OP has even the 20x would be perfectly fine and hold 100-400s just fine as well. It would be a good match to the tripod in fact better than the tripod.

I had the 40x on my vanguard for a little bit until my big legs came in and while the 40x was there it really told me how flimsy the tripod was.

Tripod + head = system and you need a good matching system.


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Sep 03, 2017 18:19 |  #24

I also made up my mind for the 30X. I checked my tripod, it's diameter is around 58mm so even the 30x will be a little big but still not too bad so I'll go for it. Thanks for everyone trying to help.

Generally I ask the forum for advice for a gear saying my budget is X, I end up buying a product that costs 3X :D First time I decide this fast for cheaper than what I think I guess :)


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Sep 03, 2017 18:22 |  #25

You'll be pleased. Last thing you want to do is add more weight up top by the camera and that 30x being .4lb lighter will be a much better choice. It's still robust like I said my 10x holds way more then I ever thought it would.


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Sep 03, 2017 20:25 |  #26

I have a 30x and I use it on a couple tripods that are supposed to be able to take about 25-30 lbs and it has been great. It is too much for me mefoto travel tripod




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Sep 04, 2017 09:42 |  #27

Late to the party. I bought Markin M-10 like 10+ yrs ago, it still going. Plates, heads wise, Arca Swiss is the gold standard. Manfratto system is crappy (no offense) in comparison. RRS heads like everything else from that company are top notch.


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Nov 15, 2017 07:43 |  #28

I purchased the 10x after reading this thread. I put it on my Manfrotto legs yesterday, replacing the pan/tilt head that came with the tripod. I have to say that I love the Arca QR! The head is incredibly smooth, easy to adjust and secure. I mounted my 70-300L on it and it is VERY stable.


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Nov 15, 2017 10:15 |  #29

I have both the Sirui 30x and 20x on different tripods based on recommendations on POTN. I am very pleased with both.




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Nov 15, 2017 19:32 as a reply to Robinson Crusoe's post |  #30

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the K30X!

Let us know what you think when it arrives:-)


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