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Sep 06, 2017 16:46 |  #1

Which do you like better? 24-70..f4 or 2.8, 24-105.. Is their much difference between first version of the 24-105 and the version ii?? let's hear it. thanks!!




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Sep 06, 2017 16:59 |  #2

James Crockett wrote in post #18446177 (external link)
Which do you like better? 24-70..f4 or 2.8, 24-105.. Is their much difference between first version of the 24-105 and the version ii?? let's hear it. thanks!!

By my own experience:

24-70/2.8 v2 > 24-70/2.8 v1 > 24-105 v1

That's when you don't need IS, as Canon is still maximizing revenues by keeping us out of IS with 24-70/2.8, which is one of the reasons I am mostly shooting Sony now.
I haven't tried the 24-105 v2 yet, and I am not losing my sleep because of that ;)


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Sep 06, 2017 17:37 as a reply to CheshireCat's post |  #3

Is it that much difference between the 24-70 v1 and the 24-70 v2?




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Sep 06, 2017 17:54 |  #4

Eh, hard to compare a bunch of different tier tools with different constant focal-ratios without knowing what you're looking to do with them.

The 24-70 F4L IS and the 24-105 F4L IS can be compared even though their focal lengths are a little different on the long end because they share so much. The unless you need the extra 71~105mm focal length, the 24-70 F4L IS is better in every way.

Mean while, having constant F2.8 means you get a 24-70 and it will cost an arm & a leg, and not have any stabilization. So if you need that focal-ratio, you're only option is this one as there is no alternative from Canon at F2.8. Your alternative would only be 3rd party, like a Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC G2.

The 24-70 MK II is actually crazy good (very prime like sharpness, the old MKI is softer).

Personally I'd want the 24-70 F4L IS. Very flexible lens. I'd rather have modern IS than 1 more stop of focal ratio speed. Also it's ability to focus very closely. It's just a handy, smaller, light weight lens that is great for its flexibility and versatility. If I wanted F2.8, I'd get a Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC because I'd want the image stabilization regardless of being F2.8 (and its affordable).

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Sep 06, 2017 18:12 as a reply to MalVeauX's post |  #5

good stuff!! thanks!




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Sep 06, 2017 18:15 |  #6

It'd be used for portrait photography.




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Sep 06, 2017 18:29 as a reply to James Crockett's post |  #7

you should read some reviews. try the digital picture


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Sep 06, 2017 18:40 |  #8

CheshireCat wrote in post #18446187 (external link)
Canon is still maximizing revenues by keeping us out of IS with 24-70/2.8

How is it maximizing revenue to not offer a more expensive option?


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Sep 06, 2017 18:47 |  #9

LonelyBoy wrote in post #18446263 (external link)
How is it maximizing revenue to not offer a more expensive option?

the 24-70ii came out over $2000 and has been selling well for a long time. Prices have gone down since, and they can add IS to it years later after sales of the 24-70ii has declined, and get people to buy the IS version for $2000+ with minimal R and D.


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Sep 06, 2017 19:34 as a reply to Charlie's post |  #10

you think it'll be as simple as just slapping IS on the existing 24-70l II? I doubt it.


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Sep 06, 2017 19:47 |  #11

James Crockett wrote in post #18446211 (external link)
Is it that much difference between the 24-70 v1 and the 24-70 v2?

On a modern hi-res sensor: yes. Colors are better too.
On an average photo at average viewing distance: no.


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Sep 06, 2017 19:49 |  #12

ed rader wrote in post #18446297 (external link)
you think it'll be as simple as just slapping IS on the existing 24-70l II? I doubt it.

Oh, it definitely is.
Add some marketing BS like super-atomic-phantom-coating and aberration-resistant-nano-silent-USM-dispersion-barrier, and you'll get $2k again.


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Sep 06, 2017 20:22 |  #13

ed rader wrote in post #18446297 (external link)
you think it'll be as simple as just slapping IS on the existing 24-70l II? I doubt it.

ok, it's not that simple, but they do have a patent for an IS model going many years back. They simply didnt think they needed it as competition was always lackluster.

It's only a matter of time, the 24-105 and 24-70 mk 1 lived very fruitful lives, I'de expect the 24-70 f2.8 ii to live a very long life before being replaced, likely 2022? the 28-70 and 24-70 mk1 both lasted 10 ish years I think.


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Sep 06, 2017 22:21 |  #14

Charlie wrote in post #18446323 (external link)
I'de expect the 24-70 f2.8 ii to live a very long life before being replaced, likely 2022?

I think it will happen faster or not happen at all. You see, Canon is being eaten alive by phones and mirrorless cameras.
The 24-70 IS may be the swan song.


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Sep 06, 2017 22:45 |  #15

Happy with the 24-105 STM.


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