MalVeauX wrote in post #18453669
I keep coming back to Fuji after looking some more. Watched some YouTube content.
Trying to be realistic, that this is not to replace my Canon system, but simply to be a nice little beater camera that I don't have to think about much with but also that is going to be inconspicuous, not being a big "dSLR" in someone's face, but rather just a smaller camera that folk tend to truly ignore. Makes candid family stuff a little more candid feeling. My EOS-M already does that, compared to me hulking around my 1Ds & 135L. It just gets old having to stand 20 feet away and they know I'm pointing a big kit at them, versus when my wee M is out and no one cares. Weird psychology.
Right now, just looking at KEH (love used stuff there):
Fuji X100S (23mm F2) $550
Fuji XPRO1 (no lens) $490
Fuji X-E2 (no lens) $370
Fuji 18mm F2 $350 - This could be nice.
Fuji 27mm F2.8 $350 - Don't like the idea of F2.8, didn't like the 40 F2.8 STM on a full frame either.
Fuji 23mm F2 WR $450 - I like it, but it's a big lens, I'd rather have a pancake.
Rokinon 21mm F1.4 $380 - This would be great, but, it's a huge lens and I'd rather have a pancake compared to 1 more stop of aperture.
I like the idea of the PRO1 or E2, since I can then fiddle with legacy glass and a basic pancake Fuji lens. But, I don't like the price of a camera + lens right now, even used, as that's at least $700 basically. Too much for the intended purpose of this camera, that for me is more of a system price, and I'm not looking to have a 2nd system.
Then again there's the M5 from Canon, but it's like $700~800. Not interested in buying a Canon APS-C at all. Not sure about Canon's EVF compared to others who have been in the game of EVF's longer too. But that price excludes it pretty much.
I may have just talked myself into trying an X100S?
Any X100 shooters that can relate and comment why they also have 1 or 2 other Fuji bodies? Especially knowing my context (day to day use, family cam with the girls, travel and out at the beach, just whenever we're doing whatever, around the house; good for manual focus, good for dim lighting in a house, etc).
If you read my blog post, your story is sounding very reminiscent of how mine began... be careful
I would highly recommend looking around on Fred Miranda rather than KEH. KEH is pretty good, but they're markups are a lot higher than the stuff you can find on FM or other forums. I see X100S' for under $450 all the time, X-Pro1's for around $300 and X-E2's for around the same very often. I even got my X-T1 for $350 with the OE battery grip on FM.
The 18mm is one of my favorite 2 lenses, the 35/1.4 being the other (I wrote a blog post about the 18mm as well).
The 27mm as I said above is fantastic. Images from it were always sharp and full of detail, it's also tiny, focuses fast and doesn't flare easily, I used mine without a hood.
The 23mm f2 and Rokinon 21mm are definitely not what I would call "big" lenses, but they are a bit bigger than the others. The 23mm is just long, it's still tiny. The 21mm is about the same size as the XF 18-55mm, which is a little smaller than the Canon equivalent, so definitely not "big".
My bet is that you could find an X-Pro1 + XF 18mm for under $500 pretty easily if you shop around a bit. If you'd like I'd be happy to assist
I will add (since you asked) that the X100S does seem a perfect solution for you. I didn't think I wanted an X100, I only really got one because I didn't really need my X-E2 anymore and I found a guy locally who was looking to trade his X100T for exactly what I had (an X-E2 with 27mm pancake). After trading I realized how much I loved my X100T though. It offers something above what any ILC offers.
The X100 cameras are truly small and very light. The 23/2 is a great little lens, smooth bokeh and pretty decently sharp (other than when near MFD, up close it gets fairly soft in my experience, especially wide open). The biggest advantage of it (aside from the OVF, which I love) is the leaf shutter though. The leaf shutter is nearly silent and makes flash much more useful (including the one built into the body).
I used to scoff at people when they called it their ideal desert island camera... but these days it sees about the same amount of use as my X-Pro2 just because it's always with me... I'm actually giving serious thought to trading up for the X100F, mainly for the focus joystick and use of the same batteries as my X-Pro2.