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mgnike1
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Sep 17, 2017 21:27 |  #1

Hello POTN members! I have an upcoming swim team photo to take at our local aquatic center. Last time I took a swim team photo of my swim team I had reflection from the flash bouncing off the water onto my swimmers. Is there a specific way I should be using my flash or use my flash at all? Thanks in advance for your tips!




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Sep 17, 2017 22:37 |  #2

mgnike1 wrote in post #18454539 (external link)
Hello POTN members! I have an upcoming swim team photo to take at our local aquatic center. Last time I took a swim team photo of my swim team I had reflection from the flash bouncing off the water onto my swimmers. Is there a specific way I should be using my flash or use my flash at all? Thanks in advance for your tips!

Angle of incidence. Pay attention to it.


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Sep 17, 2017 23:36 |  #3

Get into the pool or longer lens from water level.


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Sep 18, 2017 00:42 |  #4

A polarizer might help.

Angle of incidence equals angle of reflection, as mentioned, is helpful. One consideration is, water moves, so although it will generally help, it isn't perfectly simple.


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Sep 18, 2017 08:16 as a reply to dmward's post |  #5

I will be using a Canon speedlight 600RT. Do you suggest I point head of flash towards ceiling and not at subjects? Just making sure. Thanks!




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Sep 18, 2017 08:20 |  #6

even if you point it at the ceiling there still may be flash reflection unless you flag the flash head.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:22 as a reply to windpig's post |  #7

Can you explain "flag" the flash head please? Thanks




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Sep 18, 2017 08:25 |  #8

check out the link in my post I added. You want to block the flash from hitting the water, so you need to put something between the light and the pool. A simple card with a rubber band works.


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Sep 18, 2017 08:46 as a reply to windpig's post |  #9

I looked at the link and saw the self-made flag card, impressive. My speedlight has a similar card that pops out of the flash head and is somewhat the same concept but smaller in size, is it the same effect or different?




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Sep 18, 2017 09:21 |  #10

I don't completely understand the problem you experienced but here's a photo I took. I had two bare speedlights on stands to my left and right and set to a wide zoom and did not have any problems.

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Sep 18, 2017 09:35 |  #11

bpalermini wrote in post #18454833 (external link)
I don't completely understand the problem you experienced but here's a photo I took. I had two bare speedlights on stands to my left and right and set to a wide zoom and did not have any problems.

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Bob, nice example of group lighting in or out of the water.
The OP's initial post suggests that the light was bouncing into the subject causing unwanted highlights. That suggests that the light was skimming the water while your angle of view relative to the water is much higher. Which is probably the best suggestion. Get higher.


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Sep 18, 2017 09:50 |  #12

mgnike1 wrote in post #18454539 (external link)
Hello POTN members! I have an upcoming swim team photo to take at our local aquatic center. Last time I took a swim team photo of my swim team I had reflection from the flash bouncing off the water onto my swimmers. Is there a specific way I should be using my flash or use my flash at all? Thanks in advance for your tips!

I'd put it on the ceiling and lighten everything up.

Can you post an example that you think shows your problem specifically (ie, a photo of yours where light reflected off water onto the subject in a negative way)?

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Sep 18, 2017 11:18 as a reply to MalVeauX's post |  #13

I will try to locate that image I took a couple of years ago, I may have deleted it when I cleaned up some of my files.




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Sep 20, 2017 06:40 |  #14

bpalermini wrote in post #18454833 (external link)
I don't completely understand the problem you experienced but here's a photo I took. I had two bare speedlights on stands to my left and right and set to a wide zoom and did not have any problems.

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[IMAGE'S LINK: https://photos.smugmug​.com ...%20Swim-3-XL.jpg&lb=1&s=A] (external link)

That looks great.




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