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Another edit...STILL trying to learn skin tones...

 
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Sep 21, 2017 23:31 |  #1

Hello everyone

I've been playing with this photo this week, trying to get a handle on skin tones. I've been learning masks and such this week. Extreme newbie but you will never learn if you don't try. This photo and myself have become enemies as I just can't seem to get the skin right. Wayy to yellow I think. Second one is edited, first is where I started. Think I need to walk away for the night...arggg! Thoughts would be appreciated.


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Sep 22, 2017 00:02 |  #2

Better maybe?

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Sep 22, 2017 00:11 |  #3

Whoops...sorry, I think I posted more photos than the rules allow


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Sep 22, 2017 00:20 |  #4

#1 is over-exposed. I'd pull it back 1/3-1.5 stop and see where that leaves the highlights. Maybe pull them back a bit if still too hot.

#2 is definitely too yellow but hard to say exactly how much without a reference and without seeing her in real life. Is your monitor calibrated? This is where shooting a known-neutral item like a good grey card can help, especially when you're learning. Shooting raw also helps since you're then dealing with absolute color temperatures. You just have to be careful to shoot the grey card in the exact same light as the model, and not pick up stray reflections.




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Sep 22, 2017 00:23 |  #5

Kristine, hope you don't mind, but I took a crack at it. I cropped out her left arm too since I thought it was drawing attention away from her face.
If you want me to remove my edit, please let me know.

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Sep 22, 2017 00:29 as a reply to bob_r's post |  #6

This is soo much more what I have been trying to achieve! If you don't mind, could you please tell me what edits you did to get this skin tone? And I don't like the arm either. I was afraid of cropping out some of her hair but your crop looks much more pleasing. Thank you.


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Sep 22, 2017 00:44 as a reply to Kristine2514's post |  #7

Kristine, I sent you a PM.


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Sep 25, 2017 08:40 |  #8

I used masks to control things.

First I adjusted for highlights/shadows in Cam Raw.


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I then adjust tones using masks.


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Sep 25, 2017 08:41 |  #9

I then adjusted color.

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And then some skin softening.


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Sep 25, 2017 22:23 as a reply to DagoImaging's post |  #11

Thank you for showing me the steps. I appreciate and learn so much from everyone who has helps me with my editing.


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Sep 27, 2017 22:26 |  #12

One issue is that your (well all of our) brain normalizes an image after looking at it and then the next image will look off.

One way around this is to go away for 5 mins, then come back and look at just one of the images. Then do the same for the others.

Or print it and compare to the person.

I have images like this (happens with landscapes as well, especially some sunset/sunrise shots). They can drive you nuts and sometimes there is no right answer, especially if the light source is not 'white' or broad spectrum.

Personally I like the first or yours assuming she has quite pale skin and DagoImaging's result.


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Sep 27, 2017 23:34 |  #13

Skin Tones for Print (external link) This page outlines the basic technique I use. Basically, I check the color channel ratios and adjust via curves in Ps. Using a green channel adjustment to pull a smidge of magenta out, then a blue channel to add a touch of yellow set the ratios right. I used a tone curve and "blend if" adjustment to burn down the highlights some.

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Sep 28, 2017 12:45 as a reply to ejenner's post |  #14

You nailed it. I've come to realize that if I walk away for a bit, I get a clearer picture of what the photo needs in terms of skin tones


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Sep 28, 2017 12:46 as a reply to Scatterbrained's post |  #15

Thank you. I'm going to check it out now :-)


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