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Best 13-inch Laptop for Photo Editing on the Go

 
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Oct 10, 2017 22:04 as a reply to post 18470040 |  #16

It should be fine for photo editing, but if you do heavy video editing with Adobe software, a laptop with integrated Nvidia card will be faster at video rendering. The processor is a dual core. Adobe Premiere and AfterEffects use OpenGL and takes advantage of processor cores and Nvidia's GPU CUDA cores to accelerate rendering. The main caveat is that 13" models are too small to fit another graphics card, so you'll find it on 15" models. So if 13" size is important to you, you will still be able to render videos: it just won't be as fast.


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Oct 10, 2017 22:14 |  #17

davesrose wrote in post #18470155 (external link)
It should be fine for photo editing, but if you do heavy video editing with Adobe software, a laptop with integrated Nvidia card will be faster at video rendering. The processor is a dual core. Adobe Premiere and AfterEffects use OpenGL and takes advantage of processor cores and Nvidia's GPU CUDA cores to accelerate rendering. The main caveat is that 13" models are too small to fit another graphics card, so you'll find it on 15" models. So if 13" size is important to you, you will still be able to render videos: it just won't be as fast.

Thanks for the info. I'll be doing at least 95% photo editing while traveling, so my decision is good with 13".



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Oct 26, 2017 14:21 |  #18

The Dell has coil whine issues while the HP uses Synaptic crappy trackpad. The best two for editing offer excellent pen support. They are the new Surface Book 2 and the Samsung 9 Pro.


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Nov 17, 2017 16:40 |  #19

Well, Costco today announced an early Black Friday sale at $1,299.99 for the following Dell XPS 13 Touchscreen laptop. I decided to go ahead and purchase it for now in case they run out of it, but I'm going to leave the package unopened in case I return it within their 90-day return policy on computers:

Processor & Memory:
8th Gen Intel® Core i7-8550U Processor 1.8GHz
16GB LPDDR3 1866MHz RAM

Drives:
512GB PCIe Solid Drive Drive

Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 10 Home (64-bit)

Communications:
Killer 1535 Wireless-AC + Bluetooth 4.1

Graphics & Video:
13.3" Touchscreen InfinityEdge QHD+ (3200 x 1800) Display [I wanted a non-touch version with matte IPS screen, but I think I can live with this]
Integrated Graphics

Keyboard:
Backlit Keyboard

Ports & Slots:
2x USB 3.0 (1x With Power Share)
1x Thunderbolt
1x Headset Jack
1x SD Card

Power Supply:
60 WHr Battery

Dimensions: 11.98" x 7.88" x 0.33 - 0.6"
Approximate Weight: 2.7lbs

I'm not 100% happy with the screen and the specs, but for the price I can live with this, I think. HP Spectre 13" I've been comparing it to also doesn't come with the IPS matte screen and the word is that it will not be on Black Friday sale nor would Surface Book 2. I think Surface Book 2 still has some struggles with its reliability. It cost a whole lot more than either XPS or Spectre. It also weighs more than one lbs than the Dell XPS. I also didn't like that it's top heavy and detachable. Otherwise, it sure looks ideal for photo and video editing.



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Nov 17, 2017 19:50 as a reply to SYS's post |  #20

If there's too much glare, you can try a matte screen protector:

Celicious Matte Anti-Glare Screen Protector (external link)

Anti-Glare Matte Screen Protector Film for Dell XPS 13-9350 13-9360 (external link)


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Nov 24, 2017 21:14 |  #21

Well, I saw this new Black Friday sale item at Costco today, and I think I'm going to return my previous Dell XPS laptop and settle for this, instead. For Photoshop and video editing, this is better since this has IPS and 2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 Graphics card:

HP ENVY 13t Touchscreen Laptop
Regular Price: $1,399.99
Sale Price: $1,099.99
Valid 11/23/17 through 11/27/17

Processor & Memory:
Intel® Core™ i7-8550U (8th Gen) Processor at 1.8GHz
16GB LPDDR3 RAM

Drives:
512GB Solid State Drive

Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 10 Home (64 bit)

Communications:
Intel® Wireless-AC WLAN + Bluetooth®
HP Wide Vision HD Webcam + Integrated Digital Microphones

Graphics & Video:
13.3" Touchscreen WLED-backlit 4K Ultra HD IPS (3840 x 2160) Display
2GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 Graphics

Audio:
Bang & Olufsen Audio Processing with quad speakers

Keyboard:
Full-size Island-style Backlit Keyboard

Ports:
2x USB 3.1 Type C
2x USB 3.1
1x Micro SD Card Reader
1x Combination Headphone-Out/Microphone-In Jack

Power Supply:
3-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery

Additional Information:
Dimensions: 12.02"W x 8.49"D x 0.6"H
Approximate Weight: 3.06 lbs



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Dec 20, 2017 16:16 |  #22

dell 13 and hp spectre!




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Dec 21, 2017 07:07 |  #23

SYS wrote in post #18470040 (external link)
I was in Costco today, and I noticed that Dell XPS 13" with the following specs went down in price by $200 from a week ago when I last checked. Today, it's at $1,299.99. The question is does this have enough power to edit photos (LR and PS) and video? Multi-tasking?

7th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-7560U Processor 2.4GHz
16GB LPDDR3 1866MHz RAM
512GB Solid State Drive
InfinityEdge Quad HD+ (3200 x 1800) Display
Integrated Intel® Iris™ Graphics
802.11 Dual Band Wireless-AC WLAN + Bluetooth
2x USB 3.0 (1x with Powershare)
1x Media Card Reader
Approximate Weight: 2.7lbs

I doubt that price is going to be beat for those options. I am using a 13.3" Samsung 9 Light laptop with similar specs (Except 256 SSD drive) and it works fine for me. Mind you I don't do any heavy batch processing like some professionals might do. I have found for the most part LR/PS work fine as long as you are using an SSD drive. When checking resources while using LR/PS I have noticed it is always the hard drive limiting my speed - with an SSD I no longer experience any issues.

In fact I use my 11" Macbook Air quite often (1.8 GHz, 8 gig RAM, 128 SSD) when travelling. My catalog and images are on a Samsung 1T external SSD and it runs as fast as my Macbook Pro (2.4 GHZ, 16 gig RAM, 512 SSD). And even faster than my Win10 Samsung (2.7 GHz, 16 gig RAM, 256 SSD)


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Dec 22, 2017 11:33 |  #24

I am a bit confused... On Black Friday I ordered a Dell Inspiron 5000 2-in-1 Touchscreen.

Intel Core i7 8550U
8 Gb memory
1Tb HDD
nVidia 1050 graphics card on a HD (1920x1080) Display

2xUSB 3.0
1xUSB 2.0
1 SD card reader

Bluetooth etc

For only $700...

The only difference is that it has a 15.6" screen... am I missing something?

PS: I could order a slightly more expensive unit that had both SDD (256 Gb) and HDD (1 TB) but since I wanted to have a dual boot system with Linux, I didn't want to make things difficult for myself. In hindsight, this was a blunder...

EDIT: Here is the link for a 13" at $699

http://www.dell.com ...-in-1-laptop/dncwsar5010h (external link)


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Dec 22, 2017 12:19 |  #25

MakisM1 wrote in post #18524034 (external link)
The only difference is that it has a 15.6" screen... am I missing something?

Your "only" difference is my MAJOR difference. Although there are other minor differences, such as 8GB vs. 16GB and 1920x1080 vs. 3200x1800 display, I needed the 13" frame and its light weight and long battery performance for my frequent travel purposes.

By the way, the one I ended up is pretty much the same Dell XPS 13 as posted in #1 above except it's the 8th Gen i7.



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Dec 22, 2017 12:57 as a reply to MakisM1's post |  #26

Another difference would be that you have dedicated graphics: Nvidia 1050. Since the 13" 2-in-1s are smaller, they tend to not have an option for dedicated graphics (and have integrated Intel graphics instead). They also can have less ports: your 15" has a 3:1 media card reader, the 13" has a micro-SD card reader. 5200 rpm HDs are pretty slow these days. If you're looking to be dual booting with different OSes, 256GB SSD may not be enough (for different programs and page files for each OS).


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Dec 22, 2017 13:07 |  #27

I initially purchased HP Envy 13" with near identical specs as the XPS 13 because it came with a dedicated graphics card (rarity for 13" laptops) AND it cost $200 less than the XPS 13. While playing around with it upon bringing it home, though, it just didn't feel right, so I exchanged it for my current XPS 13. I'm quite satisfied with what I ended up with. I think it will last me for the next 3 years and, hopefully by then, more powerful 13" laptops will line up for my consideration.



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Dec 22, 2017 17:47 |  #28

At my age, I can't deal with a 13". I have trouble using the wife's McBook Air. I bought it for traveling too. We'll see how I fare carrying it along with a 5D3, the EF24-70 MkII and the EF 70-200 MkII...

I couldn't customize for dual drives and 16 Gb memory at this price. I didn't see significant problem when I tested with Darktable and GIMP. I'll add memory later in the year, but I don't see spending for an SDD for a travel laptop.

I encountered scaling problems with my desktop 4k display, HD for the laptop is fine.


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Dec 22, 2017 19:26 as a reply to MakisM1's post |  #29

Windows 10 has some nice compatibility features for dealing with scaling apps that don't natively support 4k.


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Dec 22, 2017 20:05 |  #30

Most programs can be adjusted with the scalability features either Windows or Ubuntu Linux offer. The problem is with some specialty programs that the developers/maintainers feel that compatibility with 4k is not their mainline business and give it low (or no) priority.

I have a couple of utility programs in Ubuntu that have little input windows which are hard set and do not scale. The font scales up, so it is readable, but you see only the first digit (most of time a 0 or a 1) and miss the next three decimals.

Thankfully, none of them I use frequently. The last problematic program was GIMP, but thankfully a 4k theme was developed and everything is copacetic now.


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