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Best B&W Protection (Clear) Filter?

 
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Oct 28, 2017 01:32 |  #1

Hi all,

Can someone please be kind enough to link me the the Best B&W Protection (Clear) Filter that B&H sell? There's a few different types.

Appreciate it!


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Oct 28, 2017 01:38 |  #2

fotoworx wrote in post #18482912 (external link)
Hi all,

Can someone please be kind enough to link me the the Best B&W Protection (Clear) Filter that B&H sell? There's a few different types.

Appreciate it!

You already own the best protection filter available.


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Oct 28, 2017 19:14 |  #3

Bassat wrote in post #18482918 (external link)
You already own the best protection filter available.


Its not stopping salt spray very well.


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Oct 28, 2017 21:20 |  #4

Oh, my bad. Sorry. I made the usual assumption that you were just looking for run-of-the-mill 'protection' filters. When I've actually needed to protect a lens from something, I've had good luck with Tiffen UV filters. Inexpensive, and highly transmissive across the visible spectrum. If you are going to be exposing it to bad stuff, don't spend a ton of money.


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Oct 29, 2017 10:22 |  #5

Here you go: https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …pe_39|clear&N=4​026728358& (external link)

Just choose the right one based on your lens' diameter. The best ones are from the Nano series (they have a coating that makes them easier to clean and that makes water deposit on the filter's surface in droplets, rather than smears). If your lens is a wide angle, you might need to choose one of the slim filters.


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Oct 29, 2017 10:30 |  #6

Here's a bit of info about B+W filters...

B+W filters are available in two main types:
1. Professional F-Pro type: these have either the basic E coating or the multi layer MRC coating (note, no nano).
2. Premium type XS-Pro type: these all have the multi layer MRC nano coating. They also have a thinner ring height than the F-Pro to reduce vignetting when using wide angle lenses.

The filter coatings can be thought of as good, better, best (well, maybe)...
E, MRC, MRC nano.
E is the basic filter coating. The MRC coating transmits more light to the lens and reflects less light off the filter (this is a good thing). MRC nano has the additional benefit of being water and dirt repellent, making the filter easier to clean.


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Oct 29, 2017 12:32 |  #7

If B&H is out of stock on any particular size "nano" Adorama also carries them at virtually identical prices. See https://www.adorama.co​m …o=b%26w+nano+cl​ear+filter (external link).




  
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Oct 29, 2017 12:46 |  #8

Bassat wrote in post #18483532 (external link)
Oh, my bad. Sorry. I made the usual assumption that you were just looking for run-of-the-mill 'protection' filters. When I've actually needed to protect a lens from something, I've had good luck with Tiffen UV filters. Inexpensive, and highly transmissive across the visible spectrum. If you are going to be exposing it to bad stuff, don't spend a ton of money.

Unfortunately the 'inexpensive' aspect of Tiffen usually comes with a price...IQ.
Tests on the web have shown repeatedly that Tiffen ranks with the 'low end version' Hoyas (single-coated or double-coated) and are very inferior to brands with multicoating for resistance to flare and lost contrast. Multicoated Hoya's and B+W filters are what you should generally get, not their bargain lines of filters.


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Oct 29, 2017 13:04 |  #9

Wilt wrote in post #18483922 (external link)
Unfortunately the 'inexpensive' aspect of Tiffen usually comes with a price...IQ.
Tests on the web have shown repeatedly that Tiffen ranks with the 'low end version' Hoyas (single-coated or double-coated) and are very inferior to brands with multicoating for resistance to flare and lost contrast. Multicoated Hoya's and B+W filters are what you should generally get, not their bargain lines of filters.

I get that. How good does a filter need to be if you are shooting with it spritzed with ocean water? :)


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Oct 29, 2017 13:29 |  #10

Bassat wrote in post #18483944 (external link)
I get that. How good does a filter need to be if you are shooting with it spritzed with ocean water? :)

Shooting into a setting sun, when the sun is in the frame and causing flare on its own, that is when you NEED better resistance to flare and loss of contrast.

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Oct 29, 2017 13:33 |  #11

Wilt wrote in post #18483966 (external link)
Shooting into a setting sun, when the sun is in the frame and causing flare on its own, that is when you NEED better resistance to flare and loss of contrast.

http://www.kenandchris​tine.com …pment-Tests/Filter-Tests/ (external link)

And we've come full-circle. The best resistance to flare and loss of contrast filter is none at all. No filter will improve these properties on any lens. Obviously, I don't do much of this kind of shooting. Please feel free to ignore me. Carry on.


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Oct 29, 2017 14:40 |  #12

Bassat wrote in post #18483971 (external link)
And we've come full-circle. The best resistance to flare and loss of contrast filter is none at all. No filter will improve these properties on any lens. .


generally agreed...but in a salt spray environment, the filter can add a degree of water 'sealing' especially on certain lenses, and it is far easier to unscrew a filter, spray it with distilled water from a spritzer bottle, and dry it off nice and clean with a cloth.

So it is necessary for each of us to decide, which is the lesser of two evils?!


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