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This is probably parallel vertical heresy...

 
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Nov 26, 2017 18:25 |  #1

...but, in a lot of images, mine as well as others, making sure verticals are parallel, especially with taller buildings makes them look like they are larger at the top than bottom.

Here's a portfolio of images from a job last fall: http://architecture.dm​wfotos.com/lifescience​/ (external link)

I struggled to get the images looking "right" for verticals. I was surprised how often the image that was most visually pleasing didn't have parallel verticals using the guides in Photoshop.

Thoughts?


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Nov 26, 2017 18:30 |  #2

dmward wrote in post #18504706 (external link)
...but, in a lot of images, mine as well as others, making sure verticals are parallel, especially with taller buildings makes them look like they are larger at the top than bottom.

Here's a portfolio of images from a job last fall: http://architecture.dm​wfotos.com/lifescience​/ (external link)

I struggled to get the images looking "right" for verticals. I was surprised how often the image that was most visually pleasing didn't have parallel verticals using the guides in Photoshop.

Thoughts?

I totally agree with your perfect verticals comment. Look at the TS17 and TS24 threads to see this. I think non perfect verticals work better in some architecture images.


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Nov 26, 2017 18:38 |  #3

An interior room with 8 foot ceilings should be basically perfect.

One or two story houses should generally be perfect.

I rarely make any thing taller perfect. The taller the building the more absurd it can look. The only exception that comes to my tired mind is if the camera is not at ground level. If camera perspective is in the middle of the large room/building height, keeping them parallel and vertical can be important.


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Nov 26, 2017 20:53 |  #4

In real life our eyes don't see tall buildings as having exactly parallel verticals. There is a slight convergence so it make sense that it will look a little odd if tall verticals are exactly parallel. It isn't as extreme as the camera causes but it is there. For that reason I tend to leave a little convergence when adjusting taller buildings.


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Nov 26, 2017 22:02 |  #5

Yes, you can have things too perfect. But, re-introducing a wee bit of keystoning in post 'straightens' the building out for the eye. Only a smidgen, mind you, a degree or two, no more. The taller the building, the more 'correction' you need. Short buildings are OK with the verticals remaining truly vertical.


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Nov 26, 2017 23:33 |  #6

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18504719 (external link)
An interior room with 8 foot ceilings should be basically perfect.

One or two story houses should generally be perfect.

I rarely make any thing taller perfect. The taller the building the more absurd it can look. The only exception that comes to my tired mind is if the camera is not at ground level. If camera perspective is in the middle of the large room/building height, keeping them parallel and vertical can be important.

That’s about the height considerations use as well.


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Nov 26, 2017 23:44 |  #7

dmward wrote in post #18504706 (external link)
...but, in a lot of images, mine as well as others, making sure verticals are parallel, especially with taller buildings makes them look like they are larger at the top than bottom.

Here's a portfolio of images from a job last fall: http://architecture.dm​wfotos.com/lifescience​/ (external link)

I struggled to get the images looking "right" for verticals. I was surprised how often the image that was most visually pleasing didn't have parallel verticals using the guides in Photoshop.

Thoughts?

The Greek architects 2,500 years ago understood this. That's why the columns of buildings from that era taper slightly towards the top. It's because of the way our brains interpret what we see.

I've been meaning to comment on this in relation to photos of buildings for some time, but didn't want to offend people. Yes, perfect verticals do look like they're larger at the top. Verticals should be adjusted so they look right to the eye, i.e. with a tiny bit of tapering.




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Nov 27, 2017 18:10 |  #8

Pippan wrote in post #18504896 (external link)
The Greek architects 2,500 years ago understood this. That's why the columns of buildings from that era taper slightly towards the top. It's because of the way our brains interpret what we see.

I've been meaning to comment on this in relation to photos of buildings for some time, but didn't want to offend people. Yes, perfect verticals do look like they're larger at the top. Verticals should be adjusted so they look right to the eye, i.e. with a tiny bit of tapering.

I remember the greek columns from art history. For some reason that eluded me when i was trying to figure out why the "true" verticals in photos make the buildings look weird.


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