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Dec 06, 2017 14:01 |  #1

Looking to convert part of my garage from a storage room to part photo studio. Looking for advise on best tips and practices for making it a comfortable environment for clients. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. Or warning of things not to do or use. :)


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Dec 06, 2017 14:15 |  #2

I did think not for a studio but for a workspace. Three things are needed, insulate, stop drafts, add heat. For insulation I used regular fiberglass and covered with plywood. For air infiltration, the garage door was the hardest to seal but adding rubber seals to the door made a pretty decent insulator. For heat, stay away from the gas/propane ones and use those oil-filled electric heaters. You don't want to be breathing fumes in an enclosed space though I guess for a studio, the lights might be enough by themselves. :)


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Dec 06, 2017 15:26 |  #3

Are you in Fresno as your profile indicates? If so, it might be cold now but are you also going to be cooling the space come mid-summer when it reaches the short side of 100 deg? If so I'd be looking at a split heat pump unit after taking appropriate insulating steps.

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Dec 06, 2017 19:17 |  #4

gjl711 wrote in post #18512109 (external link)
I did think not for a studio but for a workspace. Three things are needed, insulate, stop drafts, add heat. For insulation I used regular fiberglass and covered with plywood. For air infiltration, the garage door was the hardest to seal but adding rubber seals to the door made a pretty decent insulator. For heat, stay away from the gas/propane ones and use those oil-filled electric heaters. You don't want to be breathing fumes in an enclosed space though I guess for a studio, the lights might be enough by themselves. :)

Thank you. I kind of had an idea of how it will be rough to seal the garage. This one has some serious gaps that will need to be sealed. Starting to think it will become a bit heavy on the pockets.

And the advise about heating is greatly appreciated.


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John from PA wrote in post #18512162 (external link)
Are you in Fresno as your profile indicates? If so, it might be cold now but are you also going to be cooling the space come mid-summer when it reaches the short side of 100 deg? If so I'd be looking at a split heat pump unit after taking appropriate insulating steps.

Yes, located in Fresno.

As for long term use, I’m just planning on using the space for the next 3-6 months. I personally do not like the cold so I tend to shoot indoors more often during the cold season.

However, spending additional funds on renting other locations and spaces... in thinking I can maximize profits if I use my own space and have the freedom to take time on building sets.


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Dec 12, 2017 21:33 |  #6

Were located in Portland, and use a non insulated steel sided shop with a large garage door. We shoot nude/boudoir .... all sorts all year long. Winters we shoot with snow outside. Electric heaters sucked, propane heater (the type you put on a bbq tank) was not enough. We went with a large kerosene/diesel fuel heater and it works great. We use Diesel fuel as its a lot cheaper. I have to start it outside, let it heat up then move it inside, and I have to take it outside before turning it off to keep the fumes in the studio down. We end up just cracking the man door while using it and it gets the place nice and toasty warm. Were working in a 14'x50' building with 10' ceiling height.

This is probably overkill for your location.




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Dec 12, 2017 22:40 |  #7

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Yes, located in Fresno.

As for long term use, I’m just planning on using the space for the next 3-6 months. I personally do not like the cold so I tend to shoot indoors more often during the cold season.

However, spending additional funds on renting other locations and spaces... in thinking I can maximize profits if I use my own space and have the freedom to take time on building sets.


If it's a temporary fix your looking for, you can rent a salamander/bullet heater, propane powered.

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Dec 12, 2017 22:54 |  #8

The bullet heaters are fine if your working out doors or in a garage with the door open, but I would not use them in an enclosed space unless your looking to make that shoot your last one ever.


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Dec 13, 2017 14:36 as a reply to CyberDyneSystems's post |  #9

That might fall into the catagory of " overkill "


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Dec 14, 2017 08:34 |  #10

We use one just smaller then the one pictured, its not on its own cart. It all depends on how cold it is outside and how warm you need it inside. When its 32-40 degrees F and you need it to be 70 so your model can be nude without goosebumps you need heat and a lot of it. Keeping a door cracked is not a big deal to allow fresh air.

We use it in our enclosed space, which also has carpet on the concrete floor with no issue at all.




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Dec 14, 2017 08:48 |  #11

Littlejon Dsgn wrote in post #18516613 (external link)
Were located in Portland, and use a non insulated steel sided shop with a large garage door. We shoot nude/boudoir .... all sorts all year long. Winters we shoot with snow outside. Electric heaters sucked, propane heater (the type you put on a bbq tank) was not enough. We went with a large kerosene/diesel fuel heater and it works great. We use Diesel fuel as its a lot cheaper. I have to start it outside, let it heat up then move it inside, and I have to take it outside before turning it off to keep the fumes in the studio down. We end up just cracking the man door while using it and it gets the place nice and toasty warm. Were working in a 14'x50' building with 10' ceiling height.

This is probably overkill for your location.

This is exactly the process I used with a kerosene heater on those nights when the wood stove just wasn't enough. Although Moving a lit heater is not recommended, but with a strong back and a clear path to the door it is manageable. Obviously make sure the heater has a good handle.

It might be enough to just open the garage door when turning it off. That is when the most fumes come off, and with an already drafty garage, the start up might not be too bad.


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gjl711 wrote in post #18516665 (external link)
The bullet heaters are fine if your working out doors or in a garage with the door open, but I would not use them in an enclosed space unless your looking to make that shoot your last one ever.


I don't know what you mean. When I was a carpenter working in unheated uninsulated buildings in sub freezing temps, this is what was always used. There are many sizes available.


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Dec 14, 2017 21:36 |  #13

Some fumes vs frostbite

Coin toss, I guess.


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CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18518063 (external link)
I don't know what you mean. When I was a carpenter working in unheated uninsulated buildings in sub freezing temps, this is what was always used. There are many sizes available.

Those heaters, often called "salamander" heaters create carbon monoxide. If you are in a "loose" structure suffering from leakage then you may be fine. But if the space is relatively tight and doesn't leak, then carbon monoxide is a real concern. And the bad thing about carbon monoxide is the warnings can be mistaken for other things, so you just keep working in the space, potentially leading to death. The typical list of warning symptoms are headache, feeling tired, shortness of breath, nausea, dizzy spells, and flu-like symptoms without fever.

See https://www.mobileair.​com ...ander-heaters-poor-choice (external link).




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Yes, I understand. One must keep proper ventilation to be sure.


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