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Jan 06, 2018 18:21 |  #1

I didn't know which section to post this in, my apology if I'm in the wrong place.

I have a gray cloth background (let's call it thunder gray), and I want to get a floor piece that would go along well with it, so I can shoot models that are sitting or laying down.

What would transition well to a gray background, and isn't too expensive? And I'd actually prefer a hard material, maybe even glossy.


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Jan 06, 2018 20:37 |  #2

Get a seamless roll of thunder gray.


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Jan 06, 2018 21:23 |  #3

bobbyz wrote in post #18535223 (external link)
Get a seamless roll of thunder gray.

Paper gets ruined pretty quickly from being walked on, doesn't it?


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Jan 06, 2018 22:06 |  #4

icor1031 wrote in post #18535253 (external link)
Paper gets ruined pretty quickly from being walked on, doesn't it?

Yes. Which is why we use it. It can be cut off and discarded and more unrolled. Unless you want to purchase some flooring that will compliment the color of the cloth then paper is a good alternative.




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Jan 06, 2018 22:07 |  #5

gonzogolf wrote in post #18535271 (external link)
Yes. Which is why we use it. It can be cut off and discarded and more unrolled. Unless you want to purchase some flooring that will compliment the color of the cloth then paper is a good alternative.

What flooring do you think would go well with gray?


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Jan 06, 2018 22:19 as a reply to icor1031's post |  #6

Savage Grey Pine Floor. https://savageuniversa​l.com ...ops/gray-pine-floor-drop/ (external link)




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Jan 06, 2018 23:04 |  #7

There are lot of options now a days. All depends on how the bg looks and what goes well with it. Look at Denny Mfg's catalog. Silverlake has nice stuff. There are others I guess also. I have shot bare wall and concrete floor in the studio.


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Jan 06, 2018 23:05 |  #8

Thanks! And I have two ideas:

What do you gents think of white tileboard with a gray backdrop?
I think that would look too 'industrial,' and the contrast would be harsh.

And what about this, again - with gray? https://www.menards.co​m ...7100181057728598&ip​os=117 (external link)

If it helps, look at my style here: http://www.idealportra​its.com/studio.php (external link)

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EDIT: I think I'm going to go with quasi-seamless gray. I'll sew another gray sheet onto the one I have; the stitching shouldn't be visible, and hopefully not the joining - either.
I was ready to buy a seamless gray paper, but the sizes don't fit my apartment / what I'm doing.


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Jan 07, 2018 08:11 |  #9

sheets on the floor with full length doesn't look that good
IMHO. Tile board can be painted but would need support underneath. It also chips over time. White one is nice for use with white seamless paper. You can also buy laminate flooring and join them and put some plywood on bottom if floors are carpet.


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Jan 08, 2018 10:24 as a reply to icor1031's post |  #10

a greyish wood laminate flooring is probably best. certainly the most durable. if portability isn't a consideration.


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Jan 08, 2018 20:10 |  #11

Another thought- I have a 4x8 sheet of plexiglass that i use a lot for this. If nothing else, it smooths out the cloth floor if you use that. I put it on paper too- just to give the model a place to stand.

It can reflect up a little bit- which is good and bad, depending on what you are after. I really like the reflection on black cloth or paper. Other colors- it depends on the shoot. The young lady with the umbrella is standing on it, you can see a slight bit of reflection, but for the most part, I'm just trying to give her a good surface to stand on. In the case of the girl with the purple hair, I was trying to emphasize the reflection. That was shot with black cloth under the clear sheet of plexi.

As always- lots of ways to do things. I just thought I would add my 2 cents.

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Jan 10, 2018 14:14 |  #12

That's a pretty cool idea:- :idea:
hard-wearing
washable
re-usable
portable


I like the colour-scheme/pattern options - I wonder if they're available in the UK and or Bulgaria??
Is the material 'reflective to light' / 'light-absorbent' ?


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Jan 10, 2018 14:21 |  #13

sfinkernagel wrote in post #18536685 (external link)
Another thought- I have a 4x8 sheet of plexiglass that i use a lot for this. If nothing else, it smooths out the cloth floor if you use that. I put it on paper too- just to give the model a place to stand.

It can reflect up a little bit- which is good and bad, depending on what you are after. I really like the reflection on black cloth or paper. Other colors- it depends on the shoot. The young lady with the umbrella is standing on it, you can see a slight bit of reflection, but for the most part, I'm just trying to give her a good surface to stand on. In the case of the girl with the purple hair, I was trying to emphasize the reflection. That was shot with black cloth under the clear sheet of plexi.

As always- lots of ways to do things. I just thought I would add my 2 cents.
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WOW - That for me is the 'ideal'. Massive perspex sheet(s) for full-body portraits and small group family portraits.
I could not possibly find the storage area to comfortably stock this when it is not-in-use. I would be scared to get them scratched.

(Right now I am only 'collecting' perspex sheets in A6/A5/A4 & A3 sizes from an eBay supplier - in various colours, solely for product-photography purposes)


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Jan 11, 2018 01:37 as a reply to Cham_001's post |  #14

I am guessing a little bit to understand your message- I guess I am one of those ignorant Americans who doesn't know the conversions for your measures. It sounds like you have storage concerns for the bigger sheets though. Honestly- it's not too bad. My assistant and I have about 7-8 panels that we store. This clear one, a couple of white ones, fake brick, wood print. we stand them on their edge and lean them against the wall and they are pretty much out of the way when not in use.

The clear plexi has held up pretty well with scratches. I've had it about 2 years, and it is still very usable. I would think that in another 2 or so, I'll probably replace it though.




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Jan 19, 2018 04:16 |  #15

sfinkernagel wrote in post #18538464 (external link)
I am guessing a little bit to understand your message- I guess I am one of those ignorant Americans who doesn't know the conversions for your measures. It sounds like you have storage concerns for the bigger sheets though. Honestly- it's not too bad. My assistant and I have about 7-8 panels that we store. This clear one, a couple of white ones, fake brick, wood print. we stand them on their edge and lean them against the wall and they are pretty much out of the way when not in use.

The clear plexi has held up pretty well with scratches. I've had it about 2 years, and it is still very usable. I would think that in another 2 or so, I'll probably replace it though.

Hi 'sfinkernagel', :-)

I really do like the effects produced by you using these perspex-sheets. ;-)a

Yep, you read me right on both counts!

I do get the fact that the plexi-sheets can be conveniently stowed against walls.
My 'studio' in Bulgaria is a very modest and simple roofed outdoor decked area with 4 x Posts & crossbeams - so no walls available! :-(
(In Spring-to-Summer, temperatures reach +40C - and there is little wind/breeze to speak of - hence my choice to setup outdoors!)
I simply hang various fabrics as backdrops over these crossbeams that drape onto the decking - yep a lot of fabric :eek:
(Fabrics are stored away in custom-made wooden storage boxes inside the main house).

I suppose, the way to overcome my problem would be to build a separate 'shed' to store these perspex-sheets in.
To overcome any 'scratching', I would probably need to buy polystyrene sheets to sandwich them between the plexi-sheets.

It is something that I have to seriously think about. I know that these clear perspex sheets are readily available in Bulgaria.
When I head out there again in late-Spring, I will see whether I can source other colours.


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