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Jan 30, 2018 13:42 |  #31

I still find it interesting when I go to venues such as the NAIAS in Detroit (Autoshow) over the weekend. Probably 85% of the folks with camera's had Canon. 70% of those had L glass. Now It's obvious I don't know the vintage of many of the bodies folks were walking around with, but Canon represents where people purchase what they see others shooting with.

Does Canon need to do better? Of course. But for many of the bread and butter users that purchase what they see, Canon wins.


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Jan 30, 2018 13:54 |  #32

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18552004 (external link)
yup, what tom said.

canon will do "face tracking" in live view, there seems to be discussion but no firm word on whether canon actually "sees" the eyes when face tracking.

From what I have seen, one of the really great things about Sony's Eye Focus is that it gives you precise in-viewfinder information about just what it is that the camera is tracking (that little red square dancing in the EVF). That is a feature that I would really like to have, given that I spend a whole lot of my time behind a camera photographing moving people.

I am going to post somewhere else about my various confusions regarding how Canon focus tracking actually works. I shot a school sports day the other day and, although plenty of my results were fine, I had far too many cases of shots where the camera had picked up a different person to focus on to the one that I thought I had made it absolutely clear (as far as you can to an inanimate object, at least) that I was trying to follow. Outstandingly sharp images of a distant spectator on the other side of the 'sportsfield' were not what I was aiming for.


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Jan 30, 2018 14:04 |  #33

Chet wrote in post #18552610 (external link)
I still find it interesting when I go to venues such as the NAIAS in Detroit (Autoshow) over the weekend. Probably 85% of the folks with camera's had Canon. 70% of those had L glass. Now It's obvious I don't know the vintage of many of the bodies folks were walking around with, but Canon represents where people purchase what they see others shooting with.

Does Canon need to do better? Of course. But for many of the bread and butter users that purchase what they see, Canon wins.


everywhere i go , be it a major events looking at the pros , or a local street fairs looking at the "average joe"..

i'm talking anything from point and shoots to Pro ILC

Canon is the majority of what i see..with Nikon taking 2nd place but definetly not a close second ..,., but without a doubt 2nd place

i do see some Sony nex cameras(a6000 , a5000) and some FF a7 series..
as well as i see Lumix (Panasonic) cameras(seems popular with tourist).

not very often do i see a Fuji or Olympus

(This of course is all just my opinion , conclusions I've drawn for myself )

Any way, i think Canon will be number 1 in overall Camera Sales for a good while still , for the simple fact that they've got a name recognized as the best Camera maker only possibly Nikon will challenge that ..
that seems to be the overall mind set of the majority , pros and Full auto mode consumers .
there are still a group of people old timers and newbies who lust after Canon 5d4's and 1DX ..and consider everything else a toy.
Ask someone who is not a photographer and has no interest in learning they just want something that will give them pro looks, who makes the best Cameras .. they will almost always say Canon or Nikon

I would be super shocked if canon suddently started innovating at the level of Sony, Panaonsic Fuji etc..or forget innovation , even really cramming as many features into all their cameras like the mirroress world seems to do


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Jan 30, 2018 14:21 |  #34

rantercsr wrote in post #18552639 (external link)
everywhere i go , be it a major events looking at the pros , or a local street fairs looking at the "average joe"..
i'm talking anything from point and shoots to Pro ILC
Canon is the majority of what i see..with Nikon taking 2nd place but definetly not a close second ..,., but without a doubt 2nd place
. . .
Anyway, i think Canon will be number 1 in overall Camera Sales for a good while still . . .

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I think you are right. . In business, being "most popular" is much more important than being "the best".

Popularity, not quality or ingenuity, is what brings in massive profits.

Canon has done well by leveraging their brand's popularity, and thus been able to sell well without having to invest much money into research and development. . That may suck for us consumers, but it is great for those who benefit from Canon's bottom line.


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Jan 30, 2018 19:06 |  #35

Wilt wrote in post #18552574 (external link)
Tom,

Would you rather get a small handful of jelly beans, or a really big giant bag of jelly beans, in exchange for half of that PBJ in your lunch?

 :p

where does an everlasting gobstopper fit into this equation?

and if it is everlasting, does it really give me different flavors?

what if i don't like grape?

what if it breaks? can i get it fixed?


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Jan 30, 2018 19:11 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #36

Send it back to Adorama or B&H, if new enough they exchange the defective merchandise for working merchandise.


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Jan 30, 2018 19:14 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #37

link?

:D


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Jan 30, 2018 19:25 |  #38

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18552911 (external link)
link?

:D

Do you have your original purchase receipt of the everlasting gobstopper, and how long ago did you buy it from B&H?Adorama?


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Jan 30, 2018 20:22 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #39

don't you try to fool me into showing my golden ticket.


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Jan 30, 2018 20:40 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #40

Not trying to trick you, merely trying to ensure than you have the needed documentation to make the exchange without complication. I have a distaste for open box stock Everlasting Gobstoppers, don't you?!


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Jan 30, 2018 21:12 |  #41

barf.

lol


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