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Digitizing super 8 films with a dSLR and Magic Lantern

 
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Jan 15, 2018 11:47 |  #1

I am considering options for digitizing super 8 films.
There are devices like the Wolverine and alikes at $300-400 that do the job but the impression I got from reading discussions in super 8 film forum and others render this more of a toy than a proper device to digitize flicker free and focused images.

Considering I can build a proper frame by frame feed contraption that can feed the film frame by frame, and also considering I have a Canon FD Bellows with 20mm f/3.5 microphoto lens and the duplicator 8, I can build a device that can take several thousand pictures of the 8mm frames and then compose them into a movie, de-shake it if needed, frame it and dub the audio recorded separately.

Obviously, this has a catch: The cost of 4-5000 clicks per 50ft of super 8 film on the camera's shutter life.

I checked out Magic Lantern and it looks like it may (or may not) be a solution to this.

The only way I have figured it could be used is by means of setting up time laps by intervalometer, set every frame to be taken every 4-5 seconds or as much as the feeding mechanism can advance the film frames and take a picture of each frame without operating the shutter. Perhaps if the delay between shots is enough, every frame would be shot while stationary but even a discrepancy of a small fraction of a second may result in blurry frames every few hundred shots.

Do you know if there is a way to trigger the shots in ML by means of an external triggering - rather than a fixed time lapse counter?




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Feb 20, 2018 11:29 |  #2

Just an update to this question for posterity...

I checked Magic lantern and alternative possibilities and it looks like a better option is to use a mirrorless camera with the electronic shutter to do this. An APS-C like 4/3 camera looks to be the best option and because of the electronic shutter, the frames cannot be lit by a flash but rather a LED like illumination (powered by DC instead of AC) is the way to go.

Now on to build the transport with enough accuracy both in linear motion (advancing exactly one frame) and also tracking (drive the film through a snug fit guide), to make it feasible.

I also investigated alternative options, like Wolverine like dedicated devices as well as real time filming through the projector, but all these are plagued by problems.




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Perfectly ­ Frank
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Feb 20, 2018 12:26 |  #3

Keep us updated.
I have a large box of 8mm and super 8mm films dating from the 50s to the 70s.


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John ­ from ­ PA
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Feb 20, 2018 14:44 |  #4

I have this done and personally at $10 for a 50 foot reel I would not make it into a DYI project. Even 1080p is $15 per reel.

https://www.digmypics.​com/8mmFilmTransfer.as​px (external link)




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Feb 20, 2018 17:44 |  #5

John from PA wrote in post #18568420 (external link)
I have this done and personally at $10 for a 50 foot reel I would not make it into a DYI project. Even 1080p is $15 per reel.

https://www.digmypics.​com/8mmFilmTransfer.as​px (external link)

Their prices are very reasonable. I've seen others charging much higher. I might give them a try.
Have you used their services?


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Feb 21, 2018 12:08 |  #6

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18568535 (external link)
Have you used their services?

Yes, about a year ago we bit the bullet and had numerous stuff moved to a DVD. It was pretty much 16mm dating back to the 50's and the quality was excellent.

If you are reluctant just send a few rolls for a "test."




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Feb 22, 2018 03:10 |  #7

John from PA wrote in post #18569049 (external link)
Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18568535 (external link)
Have you used their services?

Yes, about a year ago we bit the bullet and had numerous stuff moved to a DVD. It was pretty much 16mm dating back to the 50's and the quality was excellent.

If you are reluctant just send a few rolls for a "test."

Thanks, I'll do that.


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