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Biggest obstacle in finding model

 
inwardphoto
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Jan 26, 2018 12:05 |  #1

Here in my location, Arkansas, USA, It seems that the biggest obstacle to finding good models is Craigslist (CL) and the Guy With A Camera (GWC).

Get on craigslist and look in the creative section and you find all sorts of adds for guys looking for models. You see lines such as (You must host, I want my photos to be unique" and such. None post a link to a portfolio, give contact information, etc, or at least the majority don't.

I admit I've posted on CL looking for specific things. When I do I give a phone number, I usually put my name and a link to my portfolio that I let Adobe host. I'm trying to set myself apart from those GWC.

When you post on sites like CL what information do you provide in the add for prospective models?


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Jan 26, 2018 13:45 |  #2

People ain't clicking on links to portfolios.

Do you put actual images in your ads, representing the style of photos you want to shoot? Even if you're looking for nude models and can't post nude images, you can still display similarly-composed images that demonstrate your skill with lighting and retouching.

Also, offer to provide local references.


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Jan 27, 2018 07:36 as a reply to nathancarter's post |  #3

Good idea, thanks.

The whole advertising thing is new to me.


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Jan 27, 2018 13:35 |  #4

Craig's List has always been the least productive means of finding a model for me. It can be done, but usually the model is less than reliable or just never shows up for the interview/shoot. Model Mayhem is a better source as they at least require models to have a portfolio and a profile. There are other online venues such as One Model Place, but I've always found the best models come via referrals from other models or photographers.

If there is a local art school or college, you might try posting a notice on one of their bulletin boards (physical or online). Good luck.

(When I first started I had to put ads in <gasp> newspapers). :)


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Jan 27, 2018 14:00 |  #5

We find a good 75% of our models on CL, we run ads with photos in the ad that are consistent. We list out what we are looking for, (the ads with several ideas get more response). We list our company name and a link to our actual website, our IG name and FB page. We list exactly what we expect and what the model will get in return. We then run a few versions of the ad every couple days (different one each day, over several days). Some ads get us 10-15 responses in the first day others nothing. Its a crap shoot.

Then comes the fun part of weeding thru the responses. We ask for a few photos in our ad, if the model send those in the first step it helps, otherwise we send a short response with a simple "Please send over a few photos, selfie style is fine for consideration".

A lot depends on what exactly you are looking for.

A big one for us, we have our own studio and say so in our ad if we are doing studio sessions. If you do not but plan to rent one, just say the session will take place in a studio.

Consistency is key, we have a lot of models that tell us they saw our ads for several different shoots before they felt safe reaching out. Be professional 100% of the time in your ads and you will start to stand apart.




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Jan 30, 2018 01:21 |  #6

any chances for Modelmayhem contacts in your area? this site is directly related to photography/models and may give you better succes rates.

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johnvanr
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Jan 30, 2018 19:55 |  #7

If I needed a model quickly and I could pay, Craigslist has been helpful. Otherwise, Modelmayhem works but here in the US it’s slowly falling apart and being taken over by Instagram (which I find a pain).


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Jan 31, 2018 08:25 as a reply to charlemagne's post |  #8

The same "Guy With A Camera" issue has hit modelmayhem.

My focus is going to be demonstrating my professionalism and hoping that brings people to my door. I've got studio space lined up and I hope that having a secure, professional space helps.


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Jan 31, 2018 11:27 |  #9

inwardphoto wrote in post #18553228 (external link)
The same "Guy With A Camera" issue has hit modelmayhem.

My focus is going to be demonstrating my professionalism and hoping that brings people to my door. I've got studio space lined up and I hope that having a secure, professional space helps.

I'm sure it does, I have had the opportunity of renting a local place nearby and I have not hesitated a minute. I have always been shooting on third party locations (both payed or private), and I still love doing it, but it is very convenient if you can shoot without depending from others.
I have gathered some fine furniture in secondhand stores, painted 2 walls white and 1 black and the room has a nice wooden parquet floor. I need not hesitate anymore to 'have someone in' on any day, since I always have my own space as a backup should a location be cancelled or should the weather be poor. This makes me feel a lot more confident in offering shooting packages on my website (which I must do ... at once ;) )

So get yourself a good portfolio together, get your own web space showing that portfolio, and work your networks ... next to that, be professional in your communication and shoot execution, and things should go smoother day after day.

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