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Canon 100-400 vs. Sigma 150-600 C for Birding

 
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Jan 30, 2018 13:28 |  #1

I know this is not a fair comparison, but the reason why I'm inquiring about this is because I sold my 100-400 and am thinking about getting Sigma 150-600 C.

Again, I know it's not a fair comparison, but for those with the experience with both lenses, how does Canon's IQ at 400mm compare to Sigma's IQ at 600mm given similar lighting situation and other conditions being equal? Does Sigma's IQ at 600 suffer noticeably in comparison? I intend to use Sigma more for bird "portraits" as opposed to BIF.



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Jan 30, 2018 13:43 |  #2

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I know this is not a fair comparison, but the reason why I'm inquiring about this is because I sold my 100-400 and am thinking about getting Sigma 150-600 C.

Again, I know it's not a fair comparison, but for those with the experience with both lenses, how does Canon's IQ at 400mm compare to Sigma's IQ at 600mm given similar lighting situation and other conditions being equal? Does Sigma's IQ at 600 suffer noticeably in comparison? I intend to use Sigma more for bird "portraits" as opposed to BIF.

Sigma 150-600 all the way. There's no real appreciable difference in sharpness or anything. You're shooting portraits, the 600mm is going to give you more bang for your buck. Even if you were into BIF, both would be fine (for larger slower things). For zany close range BIF, I'd go with a prime for the edge in AF speed and aperture gains. But for just trying to get an excellent birding lens, the Sigma 150-600 is excellent, as is the Tamron. I'd get either over a Canon 100-400 for this purpose.

I use a 150-600 myself for the slow, big, or close range small bird portraits (song birds, lumbering osprey, etc).
For BIF, I use my 300 F4L IS and just apply a TC as needed, and I'm always very close to the subject (mostly fast shoreline birds like terns and smaller species).

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Jan 30, 2018 13:49 |  #3

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Sigma 150-600 all the way. There's no real appreciable difference in sharpness or anything. You're shooting portraits, the 600mm is going to give you more bang for your buck. Even if you were into BIF, both would be fine (for larger slower things). For zany close range BIF, I'd go with a prime for the edge in AF speed and aperture gains. But for just trying to get an excellent birding lens, the Sigma 150-600 is excellent, as is the Tamron. I'd get either over a Canon 100-400 for this purpose.

I use a 150-600 myself for the slow, big, or close range small bird portraits (song birds, lumbering osprey, etc).
For BIF, I use my 300 F4L IS and just apply a TC as needed, and I'm always very close to the subject (mostly fast shoreline birds like terns and smaller species).

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Thanks, exactly the kind of info I need. Adorama currently offers the Sigma lens with the USB Dock thrown in for free, but they're out of stock, so I'll have to wait a bit.



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May 05, 2018 02:57 |  #4

Funny. I just sold my 150-600 to buy the 100-400.. :)

I really like/liked the Sigma overall.


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May 05, 2018 11:01 |  #5

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Funny. I just sold my 150-600 to buy the 100-400.. :)

I really like/liked the Sigma overall.

Is your new 100-400 the original or II edition? So far, I'm liking the 150-600 a lot better. IQ wise, it's about the same or even a slight edge to 150-600. Of course, a definite edge with 200mm more in focal length with the Sigma.



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May 05, 2018 13:20 |  #6

I probably shouldn't comment but I subscribe to three threads: the 100-400ii Wow thread, the sigma and Tamron 2 150-600 threads. I wouldn't be happy with most of the shots I see on the 150-600 threads but I realize there are a lot of variables at work. I do know, I get extremely good shots with the 100-400ii. I recently got a 1D X2 and I already had the 1.4X TC. It actually works with the 100-400ii so that gets me to 560mm, albeit at a much higher cost.

I think it really depends. After people have stroked the Tamron 150-600 2, I've seen some pretty good results posted here.


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May 05, 2018 13:44 |  #7

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I wouldn't be happy with most of the shots I see on the 150-600 threads but I realize there are a lot of variables at work.

For the most part, I wasn't impressed with the sample photo images out of Sigma 150-600 prior to my decision to purchase it, but when I saw some really good ones, I basically knew that the bad sample photos were due primarily to user inexperience or errors. Of all the sample photos I've seen, the lens that seems to yield the best and consistent results is when it's paired with full frame camera bodies, most noteworthy being Canon 5D IV followed by 5D III. The ones with cropped bodies seem to vary more. It'd be very interesting what the results are going to be like when it's paired with 7D III when and if it ever comes out.

It's also how and when the lens is being employed that could easily cause variances in results. I noticed that I get a lot more keepers when I employ my monopod as opposed to hand-held. There are, of course, factors involving the camera settings, too, i.e., SS, AF, Focus, etc.

I heard great things about 100-400 II, and that's why I inquired to the OP whether it's the original or the II edition... I can see the trading from 150-600 to 100-400 II, but not to the original 100-400.



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May 05, 2018 14:08 |  #8

I have both the 100-400I and the Siggy 150-600C and give it to the Siggy IQ wise except maybe in the corners. I have heard that the 100-400II is a better lens but I have no experience with that one.


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May 15, 2018 01:50 |  #9

I've been using the Sig 150-600C for a couple of years now. I mainly use it on my 70D. It is a little slow on AF for BIF. I posted a few shots done recently of a Bluebird using this.

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11 hours ago |  #10

After viewing many bird photos on the Canon Bird forum, to my eyes those taken with the 100-400II are in most cases superior to those taken with the 150-600 lenses. I once owned a 100-400 version I lens and it was definitely inferior to the version II.




  
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