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Feb 01, 2018 16:15 |  #1

Hello everyone,

I am planning to open a studio for commercial photography, product, portrait, advertising etc. and i need to buy the light setup and other accessories. I have a budget of 20 000 euros for this (this budget does not include the camera system).

I thought to include the godox strobes , ad600 pro (will 4 of those suffice ? ) light modifiers such as strip-boxes (2) rectangular big softboxes (2) , parabolic octagonal softboxes (one huge and one smaller), c-stands, mini stands, boom arms, a background system (with paper rolls or muslin) and a studio camera stand (not foba but the ones from manfrotto)

As i don t have much experience working in a studio , do you have any other suggestions about what might be needed ? What will you buy with 20 k for studio work ?

Thank you for your answers, all the best !




  
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Feb 01, 2018 18:16 |  #2

Not the answer you looking for but personally I would get some experience working in the studio before opening one up for business. Photography business is not easy now a days.

Equipment wise, I would buy which is easier to service in your country. And something that you can rent easily if and when needed.


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Feb 01, 2018 18:21 |  #3

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Equipment wise, I would buy which is easier to service in your country. And something that you can rent easily if and when needed.

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Godox equipment has no service support...the manufacturer's web site has a few technical Q&A, but no references to any repair service nor way to obtain spare parts
So when something wears out or breaks, you simply throw it away and buy a new one.


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Feb 01, 2018 23:05 |  #4

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Godox equipment has no service support...the manufacturer's web site has a few technical Q&A, but no references to any repair service nor way to obtain spare parts
So when something wears out or breaks, you simply throw it away and buy a new one.

... and buy spares ahead of time.

Do you have a business plan, likely clients, other income while you build your book of business..?


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Feb 03, 2018 06:26 |  #5

Thank you for your feedback

I have a business plan and this will not be my main income source as I have other projects too. I will start slow , doing work for my own projects at first and then will start working with clients.

Quick question : c stands or rollers ? :)




  
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Feb 03, 2018 07:49 |  #6

C stands if the space is tight, rollers otherwise. C stands are not made for booms, and are only barely stable enough for grip arms and light, er, lights.

Two things. I always hated dealing with cabling. Battery powered strobes, mono heads or external batteries that are small enough to hang from the stand are awesome. A real camera stand, not a tripod, a steel base with a geared stand on a long pole is an awesome way to shoot.

I would buy the bare minimum and get going first. You will find all kinds of crap you need that you never even considered.


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Feb 03, 2018 07:56 |  #7

mihaikolf wrote in post #18554243 (external link)
Hello everyone,

I am planning to open a studio for commercial photography, product, portrait, advertising etc. and i need to buy the light setup and other accessories. I have a budget of 20 000 euros for this (this budget does not include the camera system).

I thought to include the godox strobes , ad600 pro (will 4 of those suffice ? ) light modifiers such as strip-boxes (2) rectangular big softboxes (2) , parabolic octagonal softboxes (one huge and one smaller), c-stands, mini stands, boom arms, a background system (with paper rolls or muslin) and a studio camera stand (not foba but the ones from manfrotto)

As i don t have much experience working in a studio , do you have any other suggestions about what might be needed ? What will you buy with 20 k for studio work ?

Thank you for your answers, all the best !

How about training yourself and gain as much knowledge and routine you can? Then you yourself find out Whats needed at which budget.
If you have to ask for the basic and dont have much studio routine youre not really ready to charge clients, just MHO
The magic bullit is not in what you buy but what you do with it and how.
Asking a what do I need question implies not knowing how to use e.g lights so the question in the first place should not be what do I need......... but rather how do I achieve this or that look




  
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Feb 03, 2018 08:47 |  #8

For the price of godox pros I'd rather look at elinchrom, broncolor and profoto.


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Feb 03, 2018 08:58 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #9

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I would buy the bare minimum and get going first. You will find all kinds of crap you need that you never even considered.

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The crap I never considered is the reason I opened the thread, I guess this is the best advice to buy the minimum and then add.

The thing is I am not new to photography or working with lights , I am new to having a proper studio with proper equipment hence the request for suggestions.




  
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Feb 03, 2018 09:04 as a reply to  @ mihaikolf's post |  #10

The thing is I am not new to photography or working with lights , I am new to having a proper studio with proper equipment hence the request for suggestions.


what lights do you normally work with ?


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Feb 03, 2018 09:38 as a reply to  @ rantercsr's post |  #11

Mainly speedlights from Canon and occasionally rented Hensel monolights




  
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Feb 03, 2018 09:43 |  #12

My opinion...

For someone making a studio for personal projects and hoping to eventually to paid work out of there..

Combine your canon speedlight with an ad600 or 2 .. to begin with
I have several godox/flashpoint lights and havent had any issues .. if you get from adorama theyve got a great return policy.

Go with bare minimum and grow from there as the demand for lights grow
And if things get good you can always upgrade to higher end lights and let the godox be emergency back ups


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Feb 03, 2018 09:51 |  #13

mihaikolf wrote in post #18555351 (external link)
The crap I never considered is the reason I opened the thread, I guess this is the best advice to buy the minimum and then add.

The thing is I am not new to photography or working with lights , I am new to having a proper studio with proper equipment hence the request for suggestions.

In the OP you say you want to pursue a lot of different markets. Each of them have different requirements. If you get going it should become apparent which is going to work best. That is why you are seeing the posts about being cautious, and why we can't just say "okay, buy this".

Here is my background holder. This is a 107 inch roll supported on a 4 dollar pole and two dollar fifty hooks. Seven bucks and serves my purposes better than a $300 system.


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Feb 03, 2018 12:46 |  #14

In studio.. I would prefer rolling stands with junior pins ; Baby pins are just as good as long as the load on the end isn't too heavy or difficult to position. Little things like placing power outlets for the flashes up and out of the way is ideal as well. If you are tethering, I would have a cart with the setup you specify so you can move the tethering equipment out of the way at times.

The lighting you specify seems to be OK.. I would try for a lighting solution that has local support from Multiblitz, Elinchrom, Bowens. Even if some companies like Multiblitz is in liquidation, there is still support for parts and service. That is important when you have clients wanting you to meet a deadline.

I have one 15 year old Elinchrom pack/head system, and it isn't a problem getting it serviced. Studio technology moves a little slower compared to run-N-gun photography where you have to capture things right now.. In a studio, you have more leeway to create some magic. Take some time and shoot your client often and in different ways to give your client options from gelled light and smoke effects to Fresnel lighting and gridded soft boxes.

I would echo previous people response and rent equipment at first.. Find out what works before putting down hard earned money.. Don't be afraid of pre-owned studio equipment with...




  
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Feb 03, 2018 12:59 |  #15

I'd stick with Hensel. That's all I use, aside from the odd, not-for-profit shot I light with my Canon EX430-II. I focus on business portraiture, architecture, and commercial/product.

I work with three Integra 500 units. Started with two, but a third is definitely required. Three will suit most of your needs. Then it's all about modifiers, some of which are as simple as sheets of foamcore.


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