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What is this world coming too? No more F1 Grid Girls ?

 
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Feb 06, 2018 12:48 |  #31

This isn't about opening the market to new customers, this is all part of the hair shirt wearing hand wringing Weinstein backlash, it's everywhere, some justified, some clearly over the top....


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Feb 06, 2018 12:52 as a reply to post 18557777 |  #32

Well ... it's an interesting theory ... but it isn't going to happen is it? Recognising people who are different (different gender, race, religion, nationality, etc., etc.) are of equal merit doesn't require pretending that we are all the same. What a horrible world we would create.

And there isn't any intrinsic merit in having more female racing drivers, either ... no more than there is in increasing the male audience for TV soap operas.


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Feb 06, 2018 12:53 |  #33

Choderboy wrote in post #18557777 (external link)
"How is removing opportunities for women a step in the right direction?"

The concept, which is is very easy to find with a bit of Googling, is that removing the "grid girls" will open up opportunities for women to participate.

I know the concept, but it is illogical.

The other women are already able to participate. . What opportunities are currently closed to women? . None. . Right?

The only discrimination that I see here is discrimination against men, because the grid girl jobs are currently only available to women. . That is discriminating on the basis of sex, which is supposed to be a bad thing, according to the modern political correctness viewpoint.

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Feb 06, 2018 13:07 as a reply to Tom Reichner's post |  #34

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Feb 06, 2018 14:51 |  #35

I don't see women racing alongside men in F1 anytime soon. Is there actually any sports where men and women are competing against each other? Now I don't know how physical F1 is these days, but it'd probably be unfair for the women having to race against the men. In all other sports (that I can think of) the best male athletes are capable of better performances than the best female athletes. It's just the way the human body works, and there's nothing wrong with that. It'd make much more sense to have a men's and a women's race each F1 weekend.




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Feb 06, 2018 14:55 |  #36

Coimbra wrote in post #18557909 (external link)
Is there actually any sports where men and women are competing against each other?

Tennis - Mixed Doubles.


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Feb 06, 2018 15:00 |  #37

Coimbra wrote in post #18557909 (external link)
I don't see women racing alongside men in F1 anytime soon. Is there actually any sports where men and women are competing against each other? Now I don't know how physical F1 is these days, but it'd probably be unfair for the women having to race against the men. In all other sports (that I can think of) the best male athletes are capable of better performances than the best female athletes. It's just the way the human body works, and there's nothing wrong with that. It'd make much more sense to have a men's and a women's race each F1 weekend.

Isn't target shooting a mixed sex sport? It's the kind of sport where you would feel physical differences would count for little in terms of competitive advantage.

I'd like to see women and men compete together in synchronised swimming. There could be nothing more hilarious. I'm not sure that my health could withstand it ... but it would be well worth taking the risk.


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Feb 06, 2018 15:04 |  #38

Coimbra wrote in post #18557909 (external link)
....... Is there actually any sports where men and women are competing against each other?..........

There are professional female race car drivers and motorcycle racers. The few women who have made a successful go at racing do tend to have more success in cars than on bikes however. Technically, depending on your politics, it could be said that there are several "mixed" sports right now with the introduction of trans women into regular women's competition. :oops:


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Feb 06, 2018 15:04 |  #39

john crossley wrote in post #18557911 (external link)
Tennis - Mixed Doubles.

That would only count if you could choose the composition of your team ... for example if two women might choose to play against any feasible two-person combination of genders on the other side of the net. In fact, mixed doubles is strictly a man and a woman competing against another man and another woman.


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Feb 06, 2018 15:06 as a reply to john crossley's post |  #40

You're technically right, but each team has the same "gender balance" or however you can put it. Sure, there's a man playing against a woman, but at the same time there's a woman playing against a man, so they sort of cancel each other out.




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Feb 06, 2018 15:11 |  #41

Can we please stop discussing this issue and get back to ogling some decent looking women? :mrgreen:




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Feb 06, 2018 15:13 |  #42

Scatterbrained wrote in post #18557917 (external link)
There are professional female race car drivers and motorcycle racers. The few women who have made a successful go at racing do tend to have more success in cars than on bikes however. Technically, depending on your politics, it could be said that there are several "mixed" sports right now with the introduction of trans women into regular women's competition. :oops:

Yes ... we know the world has gone mad. (No...stark raving bonkers!!!)

I don't believe that it is remotely fair or sporting for somebody with a man's DNA to compete with someone with a woman's DNA in any sport where basic physicality is important ... but I am so far behind the curve, I know my opinions really just don't count for sh*t any more.

I am more than happy that any 'male' sport should be opened up to women competing on merit. I think that's officially the position with horse-racing in the UK. But there are still very few female jockeys despite the natural physical advantage that women have in terms of healthily achievable body-weight.


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Feb 06, 2018 15:22 |  #43

Vintage Racer wrote in post #18557923 (external link)
Can we please stop discussing this issue and get back to ogling some decent looking women? :mrgreen:

As long as you aren't expecting to oggle while watching F1! :oops::cry::-P Oh well, MotoGP still has Umbrella Girls and the racing is better anyway.  :p


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Feb 06, 2018 16:35 |  #44

Well, this thread seems to have understeered into the weeds.




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Feb 12, 2018 11:15 |  #45

IT has happened in the IMSA races too...this past year at Petit, there were a number of the regulars that were not there...


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