Choderboy wrote in post #18559752
6D2 advantages over 6D
6.5fps vs 4.5
45 AF points versus 11
45 cross type AF points vs 1
AF at f8 vs f5.6
26MP vs 20MP
Put the DR into perspective. The 6D2 does not have the DR improvements that other recent releases have.
You say you love your 6D. Do any of the advantages I listed appeal to you. If so, you'll love a 6D2 even more than your 6D.
Thanks for listing these differences for us, Dave. . It is very helpful, for the purposes of this thread, to have them listed right here.
For me, it was these differences that you listed that I studied and contemplated for about a month before making a final decision. . Here were my thoughts about how much these differences mean to me:
Weather sealed - would be nice, but not essential. . I used my unsealed 5Dc continually in all kinds of wretched weather and never bothered to keep the rain off of it or to protect it at all, yet it lasted for 5 1/2 years before it finally succumbed to water damage.
6.5fps vs 4.5 - This would be very helpful, and result not only in more keepers, but in higher quality captures, with respect to leg positions of running mammals and wing positions of flying birds. . It would also help a lot when shooting wildlife during snowfall, when I want a lot of falling snowflakes in the image, but don't want any of them to be in front of the animal's eye or other key parts of the subject's visage.
45 AF points versus 11 - Doesn't matter. . What does matter would be expanding the overall frame coverage of the focus points. . I don't care how many points they can fit into a tiny little area in the middle of the frame. . I often like to compose my images with my subject way off to one side of the frame, so the additional points still leave me far short of what I need. . Not a useful improvement at all because they're clustered so tightly. . I still need to focus and then recompose, so what's the point? (pun kind of intended)
45 cross type AF points vs 1 - A little bit useful, but not too useful. . Why? . Because of what I just said above ^ ^ ^
AF at f8 vs f5.6 - Meaningless. . I use the 'proper' lenses for getting long focal lengths, and don't try to "cheap out" by putting extenders on lenses that are already slow. . So the f8 vs. f5.6 thing doesn't help me at all.
flippy screen - might be useful for some situational shooting, but other than one or two times a year I don't see when I would use this feature.
touch screen - I hate touch screens on other devices, and only use them if there is no other option. . Touch screens are the reason I dislike using cellphones so much. . So I can't imagine that I would ever want one on a DSLR.
26MP vs 20MP - Now this would be very useful. . I really like to print big, like 36", 48", an 60" across. . And I like to have a lot of fine feather and hair detail in the big prints because they are viewed at very close distances.
Put the DR into perspective. The 6D2 does not have the DR improvements that other recent releases have. - DR itself isn't very important to me, but excellent RAW noise performance at high ISOs is extremely important to me, and many folks claim that DR and high ISO performance are very closely related. . Having an extra full stop of ISO performance would be a big huge gamechanger in my photography. . In fact, over the past 11 years, every time I have upgraded to a body with better high ISO performance it has resulted in a massive increase of keeper images for me.
In making a decision between the 6D and the 6D2, what it really came down to wasn't just the features. . Rather, it was features per dollar spent.
After considering all of its strengths and limitations, I figured that a 6D would be worth $700 to me, tops.
And after considering all of the 6D mark 2 strengths and limitations, I figured that it would be worth between $950 and $1050 to me.
I was able to find a 6D for $700, and I wasn't able to find a 6D mark 2 for around $1,000. . So I bought the 6D because its value to me was commensurate with the price that I could buy one for.
If the high ISO capabilities of the 6D2 would have been a full stop better than the 6D, then I would have valued the 6D2 at around $1250, and I think I would have been able to get one for that figure on the used market. So yes, the lack of sensor improvement ultimately caused me to buy a used 6D instead of a used 6D mark 2.
Everyone should come up with a dollar value on what a camera's capabilities and features will be worth to them, and then stick to their guns when making the final decision. . It would be foolhardy to overpay for improvements that cost more than what they're worth to you.
It isn't just about getting a camera that meets one's needs. . It's much more complicated - some of us need to suck every possible bit of value and usefulness that we possibly can for each and every dollar that we spend. . Which camera we end up buying really is a big deal, because the amount of money that we have (or don't have) left over after making the purchase will have a big effect on our lives for quite some time after the purchase is made.
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