I just received a Canon 1Ds Mark iii. I could swear the thing is new. I bought it from Adorama. I've heard that they grade their used stuff conservatively, but this is crazy. I'm a very happy camper. Love the photos that come out of that beastie. A friend of mine owns a Canon authorized repair facility. He put it on his machine and came up with less than 10000 clicks. Somebody must have used it a bit, decided it was too heavy, and traded it. It even came 2 days early. Did I mention I'm pleased? I love those 1D bodies!