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Old 3rd of May 2006 (Wed)   #16
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

I love my 100-400L but I use mine for birding and wildlife.
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Old 3rd of May 2006 (Wed)   #17
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

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The 100-400 is a superb light weight lens.
yea, the 100-400 is a featherweight compared to 70-200 2.8IS

basically any lens at least 5.6 will do fine for sports like baseball, and the added reach of 400 should help in airshows too. if focus is annoying, you could always go manual and have 0% confusion of the camera+lens (not saying you won't get confused, because that would be close to 100% without a focus screen)
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

The 100-400 is very good for outdoor use. This is from a cascar race last monday. These cars are moving quite fast AND it's an overcast day. This is shot at iso-200, F/5.6, 1/1250. The lens was on IS mode 2 (panning).

Note the piece of car body flying by.

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Old 27th of May 2006 (Sat)   #19
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

The main problem with the 100-400L IS for shooting sports: It has a relatively small aperture.

While this may not be a problem for ALL sports shots, it is a problem for many , if not most of them. The obvious issue is that it is basically a daylight sports lens at best. It will not freeze action with fast motion under the lights.

The next problem is that you won't be rendering too many out of focus backgrounds. This is an especially large problem in most youth league sport venues because you will see things like cars in parking lots or disinterested spectators looking the other way that will be huge distractions. The CASCAR photo posted earlier is a classic example of this. It can be hard to isolate your main subject with so much else going on in the shot.

The other advantage with lenses that are f/2.8 aperture or larger is that the AF on cameras like the 20D are optimized to function better than with lenses with larger apertures than f/2.8. This is especially critical to your keeper ratio when shooting fast moving action.

So, will it function as a sports lens in some situations? Absolutely. It will even take some very nice photographs in some situations. Does this make it a good sports lens? Not IMHO. The situations that it will perform really well in are too limited. Would I buy it as a sports lens? Not if sports was my main reason for buying it. If I mainly liked taking wildlife pictures and would only occasionally use it for non-serious sports work, it could be a good choice.

Don't believe me? Look around at major sporting events. What do you see?

Most lenses that are 400mm or below have f/2.8 apertures. The 100-400 is capable of decent sharpness and has a range that would be wonderful (ideal even) for sports and yet you still will rarely if ever see one used for pro work. The reason is that the aperture is too small for regular serious sports work.

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Old 10th of June 2006 (Sat)   #20
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

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Hey, hold your horses, we are talking about a lens for all of us, not for the PROS. And for the non PROS this lens is the best we can get. And anyway, if a PRO needs the blurry background - hey, there is Photoshop !!
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

The Canon 400/2.8L is $6400.00 at BH Photo. The 100-400 IS L is $1400.00. I don't think the question was whether or not the 6400 dollar lens is better than the 1400 dollar lens. I think the answer to that question is obvious. The answer to the OP's question is that YES the 100-400 is a great lens for wildlife and sports.

If you are a pro and you need blurred backgrounds, without having to process your shots, then of course you should have the $6400.00 lens. The 100-400 is capable of allowing you to take some AMAZING photos. Many stunning examples have been posted in these forums.

Anyone thinking about getting a copy of one of these lenses should be assured that it is a fantastic tool which is also affordable for most.

I took this a few hours ago... Note the beautiful bokeh.

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Hi Wayne!

If you check my Birding, Wildlife, Bike Track, Thunderbird\Air Show, Lunar Eclipse (in 04') and Mt. Rushmore Collections on my site, you'll see what the 100-400mm is capable of!!

Here are a few quick examples with the 100-400mm! 1st w\30D, other 5 w\300D!!


Full Moon:


Great American Egret:
http://image42.webshots.com/42/0/33/...8ZxSJhl_ph.jpg

Mt. Rushmore:
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White Tiger:
http://image34.webshots.com/34/2/90/...7NEkOUU_ph.jpg

Bike Races:


I Really love this lens due to its Versility, IQ, IS, Bokeh and Quick Zoom Capability!!! It isn't real fast, but used in good light, it is hard to beat!!

Hope this helps with your purchase...Good Luck!!!

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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

All those shots come up as forbidden to me Theo.
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

It's a great lens, focusing is indeed slow. the 70-200 is much faster, but I still love the 100-400.
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

Yeah, it's a consistently bad lens, slow focus, terrible image quality and can't do those wonderful out of focus backgrounds...You could never use it for fast moving stuff like motorsports on a dull British spring day



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If the light is really poor, then it will struggle, what else do you expect from a lens with a max aperture range of f4.5 to 5.6?

For anything other than low light work, it is more than capable. There's a reason why i also own the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 but the 100-400L is my primary lens for trackside work.
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

wasn't Jim's shot from FHM done with the 100-400? it's definitely fast enough for all but evening/night. it's sharp and the AF is not going to hinder your keeper ratio. my only complaint about it is the push-me pull-you zoom action. that's not a bad lens design - just a user defect.
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Default Re: Canon 100-400: Will this make a good sports lens?

So how is this lens for stopping action, then? I have also been looking at this lens and would really be curious.
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So how is this lens for stopping action, then? I have also been looking at this lens and would really be curious.
Under what conditions? It is great in mid to high light conditions. Low to No light conditions will present problems. But that is the same with *All* sub $2000 zooms in this range. IQ has been excellent for me. IS helps but wont do anything for stopping action.
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