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Jul 16, 2006 17:21 |  #31

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Jul 16, 2006 17:51 |  #32

Thank you all for contributing. I am sold i think, lol. I was hesitant before i set this thread up, all i heard was how great the IS version is, it blocks out the great performance of the non IS that you have proven here, wait does that make sense? too many Pimms me thinks. Anyway i hope you keep posting, if it continues long enough i will be albe to post my shots when the lens arrives, wont be able to order it for another week though.
Anyone have any negative experience using a 2x converter with a 1.6 crop body?


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Jul 16, 2006 17:53 as a reply to Treat me like a tourist's post |  #33

Treat me like a tourist wrote:
Thank you all for contributing. I am sold i think, lol. I was hesitant before i set this thread up, all i heard was how great the IS version is, it blocks out the great performance of the non IS that you have proven here, wait does that make sense? too many Pimms me thinks. Anyway i hope you keep posting, if it continues long enough i will be albe to post my shots when the lens arrives, wont be able to order it for another week though.
Anyone have any negative experience using a 2x converter with a 1.6 crop body?

It'll work with 2x. But don't expect as crystal clear results. I'd consider another lens if the 2x tc will be on the lens more than 50% of the time.


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Jul 16, 2006 17:57 |  #34

The hummingbird shot with 1.4x and 2x TCs (which isn't reflected in the EXIF, BTW) was using AF at an effective aperture of f/8. I get AF with that combo on both the 5D and 20D. It seems the Tamron just passes through the Canon's info without adding its own.


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Jul 16, 2006 18:56 as a reply to Treat me like a tourist's post |  #35

Treat me like a tourist wrote:
Thank you all for contributing. I am sold i think, lol. I was hesitant before i set this thread up, all i heard was how great the IS version is, it blocks out the great performance of the non IS that you have proven here, wait does that make sense? too many Pimms me thinks. Anyway i hope you keep posting, if it continues long enough i will be albe to post my shots when the lens arrives, wont be able to order it for another week though.
Anyone have any negative experience using a 2x converter with a 1.6 crop body?

Photozone has performed resolution (sharpness) tests on both the IS and non-IS 70-200. The Non-IS, by testing, is sharper than the IS. So, IS is handy some-of-the-time, but I rather had the little extra sharpness all the time. And, since most of my shots/usage of the 70-200 are of action/sports ... IS doesn't do me much good. It all depends on what you shoot. IS is handy for those shots when a tripod isn't around or practical ... but a tripod beats IS for sharpness.


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Jul 16, 2006 19:00 as a reply to Seefutlung's post |  #36

Seefutlung wrote:
Photozone has performed resolution (sharpness) tests on both the IS and non-IS 70-200. The Non-IS, by testing, is sharper than the IS. So, IS is handy some-of-the-time, but I rather had the little extra sharpness all the time. And, since most of my shots/usage of the 70-200 are of action/sports ... IS doesn't do me much good. It all depends on what you shoot. IS is handy for those shots when a tripod isn't around or practical ... but a tripod beats IS for sharpness.

The sharpness is so minimal though. You'd likely see more lens to lens variation than anything. I doubt most people would even notice the difference with a test against the two without each being labeled. And since Canon's always tend to produce images that are on the soft side, you are going to end up sharpening anyway, whether it is the IS or non-IS.

And Jon made a good point. It does correct handshake blur, even when you are at higher shutter speeds.

For you it works, for other people IS works. Only the person who knows what they are shooting will know which is better. The sharpness issue is not relevant compared to the weight, cost, things you shoot elements.

Obviously, buy what you can afford without any financial problems occuring from your buy.


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Jul 17, 2006 09:03 as a reply to grego's post |  #37

All of them with a 20D and 70-200 f2.8L (non-IS)

Nature:
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Great lens..... 2 out of 50 times I have wished to have IS.... but 2 out of 50 times doesn't justify the $500 in my particular case

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Jul 17, 2006 10:02 as a reply to Seefutlung's post |  #38

Seefutlung wrote:
Photozone has performed resolution (sharpness) tests on both the IS and non-IS 70-200. The Non-IS, by testing, is sharper than the IS. So, IS is handy some-of-the-time, but I rather had the little extra sharpness all the time. And, since most of my shots/usage of the 70-200 are of action/sports ... IS doesn't do me much good. It all depends on what you shoot. IS is handy for those shots when a tripod isn't around or practical ... but a tripod beats IS for sharpness.

Update - Photozone.de:

Maybe the difference between the IS ver. and non-IS is only very small cos Klaus on Photozone.de is going to make new reviews of the Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8 IS and of the Canon EF 100-400 L because he think, that the copies, which he has tested, were substandard copies. New reviews will follow in a short time.
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Jul 17, 2006 14:59 as a reply to lmelendez's post |  #39

lmelendez wrote:
All of them with a 20D and 70-200 f2.8L (non-IS)

Nature:
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Great lens..... 2 out of 50 times I have wished to have IS.... but 2 out of 50 times doesn't justify the $500 in my particular case

Leo.

Beautiful shots Leo...I especially loved the second one in the People category. Did you run any particular action with that? Love the pastel colors!


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Jul 17, 2006 15:11 |  #40

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Sep 28, 2006 12:13 as a reply to Lord_Malone's post |  #41

The bokeh in the last image is amazing. No PP?


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Sep 28, 2006 18:18 |  #42

I'm not sure I get these, "show me your best shots from a XXXXX lens" threads.
Unless you have something to compare it to how are processed and sharpened images of much value?
Arguably the 70-200 f2.8L is one of the sharpest zoom that Canon makes and it's optics are not really questionable at this point as the lens has been out for so long.

I have this lens and think it's a great deal too, but I'm just not sure if these types of threads are really helpful.

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Tee Why wrote in post #2050603external link
I'm not sure I get these, "show me your best shots from a XXXXX lens" threads.
Unless you have something to compare it to how are processed and sharpened images of much value?
Arguably the 70-200 f2.8L is one of the sharpest zoom that Canon makes and it's optics are not really questionable at this point as the lens has been out for so long.

I have this lens and think it's a great deal too, but I'm just not sure if these types of threads are really helpful.

Flame suit, ON!!!


I agree. Even "straight from RAW" crops are pointless...there are different RAW softwares and different settings that mean different things.


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Sep 28, 2006 18:42 |  #44

Tee Why wrote in post #2050603external link
I'm not sure I get these, "show me your best shots from a XXXXX lens" threads.
Unless you have something to compare it to how are processed and sharpened images of much value?
Arguably the 70-200 f2.8L is one of the sharpest zoom that Canon makes and it's optics are not really questionable at this point as the lens has been out for so long.

I have this lens and think it's a great deal too, but I'm just not sure if these types of threads are really helpful.

Flame suit, ON!!!

Seen any of these threads for a Quantarray lens? How about a Canon 55-200? Perhaps people like to see what others shoot with the lens. Or perhaps characterisitics of the lens, like REALLY REALLY bad CA will show on a 800 pixel image, or how the bokeh looks. The kit lens is said to be a horrible lens but the thread for that has proved that it CAN be a useful lens that creates beautiful images.


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In2Photos wrote in post #2050684external link
Seen any of these threads for a Quantarray lens? How about a Canon 55-200? Perhaps people like to see what others shoot with the lens. Or perhaps characterisitics of the lens, like REALLY REALLY bad CA will show on a 800 pixel image, or how the bokeh looks. The kit lens is said to be a horrible lens but the thread for that has proved that it CAN be a useful lens that creates beautiful images.

Yeah, at small sizes. Kinda backs up Tee's point.


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