Canon Digital Photography Forums  

P.O.T.N. SUPPORT SHOP IS OPEN, check it out now!

Go Back   Canon Digital Photography Forums > 'Equipment Talk' section > Canon EF and EF-S Lenses
Register Rules FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #1
Buggbairn
Goldmember
 
Buggbairn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Falkirk Scotland
Posts: 2,374
Default Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Finally, my two new lenses have arrived

My 17-40L has a rival, the new kid on the block, the 24-105 L IS.

I've put together this little run of shots not just as a comparison but also I'd like folks to give me their opinions on how good they think my copies are performing.

Set-up was:
No Filters just hoods
Tripod mounted
Mirror Lock-up
Cable remote
Shot in RAW, converted in PSE 4
Only PP'ing done was USM at 70/0.6/1

Although the weather was gorgeous the harsh light of a summers afternoon may have played with the white & colours a little.

Here goes

(1) 24-105 L IS | 45mm | f9 | 1/250s | ISO100



(2) 17-40L | 40mm | f9 | 1/250s | ISO100




100 % Crops of above images

These crops have not been compressed they are hosted on my Photobucket account at origional file size after crop

(3) 24-105 L IS 100% Crop



(4) 17-40L 100% Crop



Thats it folks

I hope this is of some benefit to others, this test was not done in Lab conditions by a Pro tester (Heck the photo's squint)

As I said I'd appreciate folks views on how well they think my lenses held up in the not so helpfull harsh light.

Any questions ?? Fire away !!

I have also compiled a short lens test of the EF-S 10-22mm v's EF 17-40L
__________________

Last edited by Buggbairn : 11th of May 2006 (Thu) at 12:26.
Buggbairn is offline   Reply With Quote
This ad block will go away when you log in as member
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #2
darktiger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,921
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Better color, a lot sharper...I love my 24-105...
darktiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #3
BigBlueDodge
Goldmember
 
BigBlueDodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lonestar State
Posts: 3,725
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Well, both pictures are stopped down to f/9. I'm willing to bet the kit lens (18-55) would offer just as good of pictures if stopped down that much. You won't really gain much from a comparison like this. You need to take the same pictures at f/4, to see if your lens is sharp. ALL lenses are sharp around f/5.6 +. And if you add USM to them, you've pretty much equalized the lenses.

The better test would be to place both on tripod, with mirror lock up. Shoot at f/4 at ISO 100. Take the jpg's and don't do ANY post processing to them. Post 100% crops of each and then we can tell you how your copies are performing.
__________________
David (aka BigBlueDodge)
Gear

Last edited by BigBlueDodge : 11th of May 2006 (Thu) at 15:14.
BigBlueDodge is offline   Reply With Quote
This ad block will go away when you log in as member
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #4
lmelendez
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 810
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Quote:
Originally Posted by darktiger
Better color, a lot sharper...I love my 24-105...
Funny how things are sometimes relative. I noticed some difference between the two, being the 24-105 better.... but to me, the difference is soo tiny, it doesn't justify getting the 24-105 (for wide angle shots anyway).

Now, considering the 24-105 has IS... well, yeah... it might be a better choice for you.

Both pictures look great to me... but again, I'm just a beginner!

Leo.
__________________
Canon EOS 5D | Canon EF 50mm F1.8 mk II | Canon EF 24-105mm F4 L IS | Canon Speedlite 580EX | Canon Speedlite 420EX
http://www.bluejaygallery.com
lmelendez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #5
mrclark321
Noinker
 
mrclark321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: .... with a long history
Posts: 7,508
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Congrats on the new lens, other issues to consider are colour and contrast besides sharpness and yours look good.

Dan
__________________
A crap pile of various gear!
mrclark321 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #6
JonathanS
Member
 
JonathanS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlante, GA
Posts: 326
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

As I said on your other post, I am thinking of getting a 17-40 would be my first L (never thought I would have one), but if I might ask a question... Do you like your 17-40L, or do you think that you would have been better off with something else now that you have had it for a while?
__________________
Canon Digital Rebel 300D (unDutchables 0.2.3)
Canon RebelG 500N

Canon 17-40 F/4L
Canon
EF-S 18-55 | Canon EF 28-80 USM | Sigma 70-300 Macro Super II

Canon 430EX | Canon Speedlight 155A
Canon IP5200

http://photobucket.com/albums/a14/jonstickles/
JonathanS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #7
Double Negative
*sniffles*
 
Double Negative's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 10,477
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Quite honestly, the test is a little pointless. Stopped down to this aperture it won't tell you much, plus they're two different kinds of lenses. If you compared the 17-40mm to a 16-35mm perhaps, or a 24-70mm to the 24-105mm it would mean a little more. Running a USM pass on a test image ruins it for comparison sake. Finally, the focal lengths differ as shot by 5mm.

Nevertheless, both images look great - and you should be happy with the lenses. Congrats!
__________________
La Vida Leica!LitPixel Galleries -- 1v-HS/1d Mk IIn w/E-1 & Op/Tech straps
15mm f/2.8, 14mm f/2.8L, 24mm f/1.4L II, 35mm f/1.4L, 50mm f/1.2L, 85mm f/1.2L II, 135mm f/2.0L
16-35mm f/2.8L, 24-70mm f/2.8L, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS, Extender EF 1.4x II & 2x II
Double Negative is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #8
mbze430
Goldmember
 
mbze430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chino Hills
Posts: 2,454
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Umm someone deleted my post, but still it is pointless, and totally agree with Dlb Neg.
__________________
Gear List

My Hub to my personal work (just click on the banners)
mbze430 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #9
Buggbairn
Goldmember
 
Buggbairn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Falkirk Scotland
Posts: 2,374
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonathanS
As I said on your other post, I am thinking of getting a 17-40 would be my first L (never thought I would have one), but if I might ask a question... Do you like your 17-40L, or do you think that you would have been better off with something else now that you have had it for a while?
I've had my 17-40L for about 6 months, I thought about getting rid of it when I got the 10-22mm and the 24-105mm but I love it so much I'm hanging onto it for the time being

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Negative
Quite honestly, the test is a little pointless. Stopped down to this aperture it won't tell you much, plus they're two different kinds of lenses. If you compared the 17-40mm to a 16-35mm perhaps, or a 24-70mm to the 24-105mm it would mean a little more. Running a USM pass on a test image ruins it for comparison sake. Finally, the focal lengths differ as shot by 5mm.

Nevertheless, both images look great - and you should be happy with the lenses. Congrats
I appreciate your honesty D.N

Lens testing is something I have never taken up before, to be honest I just wanted others to give me an opinion on my lenses but instead of posting another thread titled "Is my lens sharp" I thought I'd elaborate a little.

Perhaps I should do the old Focus test when I get time
__________________
Buggbairn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #10
Double Negative
*sniffles*
 
Double Negative's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 10,477
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buggbairn
Perhaps I should do the old Focus test when I get time
Nah. They look fine. Go out and shoot.
__________________
La Vida Leica!LitPixel Galleries -- 1v-HS/1d Mk IIn w/E-1 & Op/Tech straps
15mm f/2.8, 14mm f/2.8L, 24mm f/1.4L II, 35mm f/1.4L, 50mm f/1.2L, 85mm f/1.2L II, 135mm f/2.0L
16-35mm f/2.8L, 24-70mm f/2.8L, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS, Extender EF 1.4x II & 2x II
Double Negative is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #11
Buggbairn
Goldmember
 
Buggbairn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Falkirk Scotland
Posts: 2,374
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Negative
Nah. They look fine. Go out and shoot.
Will do Boss

Does anyone know any focus tests I could do with Beer bottles and Bbq's ?
__________________
Buggbairn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #12
rklepper
Dignity-Esteem-Compassion
 
rklepper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA.
Posts: 8,940
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buggbairn
Will do Boss

Does anyone know any focus tests I could do with Beer bottles and Bbq's ?
Yes, eat and drink while you take photos.
__________________
Doc Klepper in the USA
I
am a photorealist, I like my photos with a touch of what was actually there.
Polite C&C always welcome, Thanks. Gear List
rklepper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th of May 2006 (Thu)   #13
rklepper
Dignity-Esteem-Compassion
 
rklepper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA.
Posts: 8,940
Default Re: Test EF17-40L v's EF24-105L IS (56K unfriendly)

On a more serious note. It is a little hard to tell since each photo is at a different focal length and each crop is a different size. That being said, I think you would be hard pressed to tell any real difference between the 2.
__________________
Doc Klepper in the USA
I
am a photorealist, I like my photos with a touch of what was actually there.
Polite C&C always welcome, Thanks. Gear List
rklepper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Test EF-S 10-22mm v's EF 17-40L (56K Unfriendly) Buggbairn Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 22 5th of April 2007 (Thu) 10:04
Do we still need EF17-40L? mukund2 Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 42 11th of December 2006 (Mon) 11:39
EF17-40L Focus Test JFK Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 5 4th of May 2006 (Thu) 08:22
EF17-40L, just curious how it works. toddb Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 2 10th of April 2005 (Sun) 06:43


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:43.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This forum is not affiliated with Canon in any way and is run as a free user helpsite by Pekka Saarinen, Helsinki Finland. You will need to register in order to be able to post messages. Cookies are required for registering and posting. HTML in messages is not allowed, plain website addresses are automatically made active by the board.