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Old 8th of June 2006 (Thu)   #1
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Default Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

Seems like a good lens according to the review on the FredMiranda site, and it's sooooooo much cheaper than the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS. Anyone got this Sigma and feels like posting some photo's taken with it. IS is nice...but not sure if it's really worth the extra price.
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

So why not look at the canon f/2.8L non IS also?
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

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So why not look at the canon f/2.8L non IS also?
Good point, but the Sigma is still about $200 cheaper than the non IS canon.
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

I'd go the Canon lens - non IS. It's the best lens that Canon makes (well, on a par with the superb 300mm f2.8 IS). It's a very solid lens, superb AF. It's worth the extra $200 imho.

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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

Any sample pics dpastern?
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

Some on this post:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=165497

I don't shoot a great deal with the 70-200 these days as I'm primarily shooting macro. I could dig up more shots if I had to.

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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

I got my 70-200 f/2.8L (non-IS) second-handed for less than 800$ - and the lens was (and still is) in near perfect condition. You may want to check the local second-hand ads for it.

I'll tell you the truth - the 70-200 f/2.8L is really the top of the line, there is no better 70-200 lens in the world. If you get the Sigma (which is not a bad lens at all), chances are that you will upgrade later, or you will keep thinking about that Canon untill it will drive you mad So in order to save the trouble in the future - get the Canon ...

P.S. look in my gallery for some samples.
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

I'm saving up for the IS version, but I'm starting to wonder if it's worth it. It probably would be for some wildlife situations in low light.. not action shots.
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Both the Sigma lens and the Canon lens are f2.8, so low light should be equal. As to AF, I'm pretty positive that the Canon will be faster and more accurate with AF than the Sigma, both in normal lighting and low light situations. Note that I said both scenarios. I haven't used the Sigma lens, but since Canon is the leading proponent of Autofocus, I'd expect them to have the lead over opponents.

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I'd say the sigma offers far better value for money, just as sharp, no issues with focus speed. Hardly off the camera.

http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...0_28/index.htm
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

Yeah, Photozone found that the sigma outresolves the canon in some conditions.

If you can't tell a difference between the two lenses with a large print, then what's the point of spending several hundred more just for a name?
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

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Yeah, Photozone found that the sigma outresolves the canon in some conditions.

If you can't tell a difference between the two lenses with a large print, then what's the point of spending several hundred more just for a name?
Oh I don't know...compatability with future camera bodies and resale value come to mind
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

The Sigma has a few quality control issues (always had), so the quality variations between the samples are larger than those of Canon lenses. There are a lot of happy Sigma 70-200 users out there, but there are also a lot of people who complain that the lens performs not quite as expected, especially when used at 200mm f/2.8 (Photozone mentions it also).

When looking at the whole package (build quality, AF speed and accuracy, optical quality) - the Sigma is a fine lens, but the Canon is better in every category, so for me it wins (again, as a whole package).

Also look at the Fred Miranda forums for user reviews of both lenses - the Sigma is good, but the Canoin is better
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Default Re: Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM

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Oh I don't know...compatability with future camera bodies and resale value come to mind
Playing devils advocate here, but is the compatibility insurance really worth hundreds of dollars? How often is the system changed that suddenly every professionals third party lens is now worthless?

Resale value? but if you save hundreds on one lens, why resale value? The sigma 'bigma' sales and the 30mm 1.4 seem to be selling here for as much as you can buy them new.

What if you take the money you save and invest it? Perhaps the interest generated would easily cover any loss in value? But you would still have the principle.

I've never had a hobby where people are so brand obsessed and I still fail to see the rationale generally.
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Also look at the Fred Miranda forums for user reviews of both lenses - the Sigma is good, but the Canoin is better
9.8 versus 9.1. The Sigma has 20 percent more user reviews too.

The canon is probably a better lens even if the Sigma can outperform it just because the lens speaks the native canon language with the body. But is that worth several hundred dollars more? for many, it sure is.

I just graph price versus performance. I have to have a dual axis graph. I'm not rich enough to not concern myself with price...
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