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Old 18th of June 2006 (Sun)   #1
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Default D70 vs 20d. No contest?

To me it seams obvious.


The 20D dominates the D70. They arent even in the same price bracket. The girl I love is selling her d70s to upgrade to a 20d and she is taking a lot of crap from nikon users telling her that she is dumb! We canon users are much nicer people. haha

She wants a faster FPS
To be able to crop and still get away with 20x30 prints
Faster auto focus
Better performance in lower light
and to share lenses with me (when mine actually show up)

I would love to know what you guys think.

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Old 18th of June 2006 (Sun)   #2
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

I dont think you can get 20x30 cropped prints reliably from a 20d. Sometimes yes, but all the time no. Faster AF I dont think its true. The other reasons are all valid points.
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Old 18th of June 2006 (Sun)   #3
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

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I dont think you can get 20x30 cropped prints reliably from a 20d. Sometimes yes, but all the time no. Faster AF I dont think its true. The other reasons are all valid points.
I have had nothing but success with 20x30 prints from my 30D. I have used her D70 and its actually painful to get it focus on what I want. As i understand the 20d has more focus points than the d70.

Talk to you soon!
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Old 18th of June 2006 (Sun)   #4
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

My brother shot Canon and Nikon film cameras for years. When he decided to buy a digital SLR, he went with a D200.

I don't know what the Hell he was thinking. I mean, it's gonna' ruin Christmas...
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

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she is taking a lot of crap from nikon users telling her that she is dumb! We canon users are much nicer people. haha
I would love to know what you guys think.
LOL, they're just bitter.
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Old 18th of June 2006 (Sun)   #6
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

All I can say is I had to use a Nikon d70 to try out a sigma 24-70mm in a camera shop, and even in the shop (fairly good light), it couldn't focus at all.
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I have had nothing but success with 20x30 prints from my 30D.
Cropped

I have no doubt 20x30 is possible with a 30d because I've done it several times, however I'd hate to try cropping, especially when there isnt top quality L glass attatched to the front.
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

Within reason, the size doesn't matter too much. How good it will look, is all down to how well the shot was taken. A good sharp, well exposed image, will scale very successfully. In reality, you can get a good idea by enlarging it in photoshop and viewing it at 100% of the final size. Remember to stand back a bit as you would not be viewing it from a few inches away. Generally, most images enlarge better than you would expect.

The Canon advantage is that it has very highly regarded noise reduction.

I was thinking about Nikon or Canon, when I bought my camera. I ended up buying a second hand one off a friend. Had it been Nikon, I would no doubt be very happy. However, I have no regrets now and because of my investment in Canon products, I will be a Canon customer for a long time.

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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

The D70 and 20D are both excellent cameras. The Nikon has a little more noise but other than that the picture quality is very similar. I've never owned a Nikon SLR so I can't speak to the usability factor but the D70 is no slouch.

Buy what you want and be happy. This religious war between Nikon and Canon users is just stupid. Both cameras are fantastic -- to each his own.
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

Im not down playing the nikon as a nikon. Im just talking about a camera's with an $600 difference in price. Maybe if we were comparing the rebel to the d70 the canon vs nikon battle could ensue...

I dont know... it just seems pretty simple to me. Oh well. Thanks for the help guys.

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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

The 20d is some ways ahead of the Nikon D70s, but Nikon has jumped ahead with the D200 a bit.
But they show no sign of going full-frame, and I'm already invested in Canon - so I won't be jumping ship. Canon would have to upset me a lot before I'd even consider switching.
I can remember when I was making my choice of what film SLR system to go with, for Af in the early 90's it was either minolta or canon. At that time Nikon treated AF like a toy for children, not a tool for real photography. That's probably why they still haven't really caught up!
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D70 vs 20D? Hmm, I wouldn't even trade my XT for the D70. A friend has the D70s and the AF is pretty slow in low light compared to the XT, although I'm not sure of accuracy. Image quality isn't impressing, noisier at high iso and the strange blooming effect visible like an ufo starship on glaring lights.
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

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The 20D dominates the D70. They arent even in the same price bracket. The girl I love is selling her d70s to upgrade to a 20d and she is taking a lot of crap from nikon users telling her that she is dumb! We canon users are much nicer people. haha
If she already had a bunch of Nikon lenses, wouldn't it be easier to just get a D200 instead of a 20D and new lenses?

I wouldn't buy a Nikon system if it was my first camera purchase, but if I had a few good Nikon lenses I would think twice before starting my lens collection all over.
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

I have a 20D and I have used the D70 on a few occasions. I always thought that the D70 is more comparable to the 350D rather than the 20D... which would probably be comparable to the D100 (even though I haven't used it or know much about it).
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Default Re: D70 vs 20d. No contest?

It is no contest.

When I first got my D70 it was competing neck & neck with the 10D. At that time I thought it was a fare comparison and had a fighting chance. But once the 20D came out I shut my mouth cuz I knew there was no comparison... then I made the move to Canon LOL.
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