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Aug 22, 2006 18:17 |  #1

This is an HDR composed of 4 images, taked mid-day of Grand Central Station in NYC. Actually, it is a combination of 2 HDR images, each using 4 source images (one HDR w/ Photomatix, one w/ CS2). The main body of the image is the Photomatix version, while the the rear wall w/ 3 windows (excluding the flag) is taken from the CS2 version. Punched up and cleaned in CS2 until I was fed up with it, and here is the final.. for now. Any comments and suggestions are welcome.

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Aug 22, 2006 18:28 |  #2

Wow! That is awful!

I mean, sorry, but if that is what HDR does (I have CS, not CS2) I think I will save my money.

What makes this processing so astoundingly bad is that there is virtually no contrast at all. HDR! Should be called LDR. As in the shot has almost no range whatsoever!

Flat and gray.

Honestly, don't you think it looks better with some density?

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Aug 22, 2006 18:34 |  #3

LOL Radtech

But then there would be no point to HDR, would be?

I like the people effect. Surrealistic.


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Aug 22, 2006 18:35 |  #4

The more contrast and color i added, the more i disliked the image (loses some of the best details, i think). I keep coming up with combinations that are always incredibly flat, rarely getting something good. I tend to drop them out into b/w, and even then it is still pretty regular. The only images i have had luck with are of skyscrapers against a cloudy sky.


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Aug 22, 2006 18:37 |  #5

I quite the bottom half:) try cropping it as a panorama... maybe.

its also a bit wonky:)


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Aug 22, 2006 19:18 |  #6

What I would probably like is somewhere between the original picture and Radtech's PP.


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Aug 22, 2006 19:58 as a reply to fivefish's post |  #7

Ok, well lets have some fun.

When it was thought "halfway between" might look nice, I opened them back up and blended them. Here is the results:

Blend
Not too shabby. Still has some density, but takes the saturation down a notch.

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Then I thought, well that was fun, so lets try more. Starting with the original, I applied three of my favorite actions.

Midnight Sepia.
Doesn't really work with this shot, but does have a nice dreamy feel, if that is what you like.

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Urban Acid
Brightens the shot a bit too much, but I have liked this action for a lot of other, darker shots.

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Draganized
I was surprised how much I like this. Rich golden hues, nice density, the floor looks very nice.

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Urban Acid layered on top of Draganized
In this case the Blend was Saturation, but Color and Luminosity yield good results as well. Get rid of those funky greens and I would really really like this. Has sort of a post-apocalyptic look, I think.

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Aug 22, 2006 23:11 |  #8

Draganized looked great.

But the last one (Urban acid layered with Draganized) looks better to me. (yeah, just clone/heal the green pixels in the middle.... shouldn't be too much time consuming.)

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Aug 22, 2006 23:49 as a reply to fivefish's post |  #9

fivefish wrote:
Draganized looked great.

But the last one (Urban acid layered with Draganized) looks better to me. (yeah, just clone/heal the green pixels in the middle.... shouldn't be too much time consuming.)

If I may ask, where did you get/buy your PS actions?

These came from Action Centralexternal link. And best of all, they were free. This link is to the download page - there is about 150 (just a guess without counting) available for download. I did not check all of them so I cannot say that they are all free, but all the ones I have DLed have been free.

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Aug 23, 2006 18:42 |  #10

I agree that some of Radtech's images look very nice but i think the point of discussion here should have been HDR rather than photomanipulation.....


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Aug 23, 2006 19:56 as a reply to paishin's post |  #11

paishin wrote:
I agree that some of Radtech's images look very nice but i think the point of discussion here should have been HDR rather than photomanipulation.....

Sorry,

I did not mean to hijack the thread, and I did not perceive that HDR was something other than photomanipulaiton.

The OP has Edits OK turned on. I thought the original shot was flat as posted, and my edits were intended as a demonstration of different, and perhaps better, post processing.

Again, apologies if I overstepped my welcome.

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Aug 23, 2006 20:11 as a reply to Radtech1's post |  #12
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Radtech1 wrote:
Wow! That is awful!

I mean, sorry, but if that is what HDR does (I have CS, not CS2) I think I will save my money.

What makes this processing so astoundingly bad is that there is virtually no contrast at all. HDR! Should be called LDR. As in the shot has almost no range whatsoever!

Flat and gray.

Honestly, don't you think it looks better with some density?

Rad

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I agree. The HDR version is horribly low in contrast - like just lightening the shadows a LOT. Photography is often to see things differently - NOT how our eyes see them.


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Aug 24, 2006 12:32 |  #13

All I did was bump up sharpness and contrst and played with hue/saturation......

With my limited HDR experiance, I've noticed HDR without prior PP will mostly look flat, not sharp and low on contrast.

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Aug 24, 2006 20:49 |  #14

don't get me wrong radtech, in no way i ment that you hijacked the thread....i just think that that was not what sjafari was trying to achieve in the first place. i could be wrong though....

I like what mitsujdm did...it gives it much more depth, still abit too bright and a tad oversaturated for my taste


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