G3 To Digital Rebel

[drisley]

Hi,

I've gone from a Canon S30 to a G3, and have had the G3 for about 1 year. I LOVE it (along with my 420EX flash).

I am eyeing the new DRebel, as many are.
What features are actually a step back on the DRebel, compared to the G3?

Also, I have a Hoya 58mm circular polarizer filter. Will that fit on the default DRebel lens?

Thanks so much!

[phili1]

The only place you have a step backwards would be the LCD screen.

On the G3 you use it as a view finder and the Rebel you can only use it for viewing.

The pluses are that it focuses faster and works better in low light. With your 420Ex the assit light on the flash will work. You can buy a true macro lens for it. When using higher ISO you will have almost no noise at 800 ISO and little at 1600. You have the ability to buy long telephoto lenses for nature shots. and it is 6 mega pixels verse 4. This means you can crop and blow up to 16 x 20 easy.

I own an EOS system with lenses and miss the ability to shoot spontaniously and I love the G3 and it will go where ever I go but when I get a chance I will go back to an SLR a 10 D or 300 D, keeping my G3 as it does take great pictures and the LCD lets you take shots un noticed.

The only problem I have found with my G3 is lag time, even manually setting everythjing. I have found that in low light putting the camera on spot helps resduce this lag in low light but I miss certain expressions waiting for it to focus. and DOF is not workable in all cases as the manual focus is a general one not enough increments.

Its a hrd decision but it depends on what you are looking for.

[dtrayers]

I posted my thoughts in this thread when I got my DRebel. I sometimes wish I still had my G3 for it's smaller form factor:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...ad.php?t=19216

One more thought... since there are soooo many more accessories for the DRebel, you can easily run up the bankcard. I was fortunate and had a little financial windfall, but take a look at my signature line and know that in October all I had was the DRebel kit and the 420EX.

If you do get one, you soon will want to upgrade the lens and to get a longer zoom, and if you use second curtain sync or FEC on your G3 at all you should plan on investing in a 550EX flash.

Beware, don't think it'll be $999US and your done.

Oh yes, kit lens is 58mm dia.

[civis]

Very true, much like a GameCube or Playstation; the SLR body (digital or film) is your game console, and the lenses are the game cartridges. The SLR purchase isn't the end, by any means.

[phili1]

I agree with that but I already have four lenses from MY Eos.

I love the G3 but I do some shooting that requires a quicker response.

I know if I get one I will want a 400 f2.8 lens 2 x conveter for bird photography. BUt my 70 to 300 will have to do. I have a super macro I cant wait to use.

[civis]

If you have a good selection of lenses already (or don't mind buying them), then by all means buy that DR (or perhaps a 10D).

[drisley]

Thanks people.

One thing that worries me about the DRebel (that I didnt like with my S30) is that the LCD doesn't swivel, and hence can't be protected from scratching when stored.

What is the equivalent zoom of the included DRebel lense (compared to the G3's 4x zoom)?

Thanks again for all your input

[phili1]

If you use a 35mm camera lens the a 70 to 300 will become a 140 to 600 mm lens on the 300D Approximately.

The lcd screen on the rebel does not move becaue it can only be used to view already shot pictures. If I am not mistaken it has a protective coating ( Hard) but anyway hoodman sells protective coatings for cameras.

Civis I wish I could afford it.

[dtrayers]

drisley wrote:
Thanks people.

One thing that worries me about the DRebel (that I didnt like with my S30) is that the LCD doesn't swivel, and hence can't be protected from scratching when stored.

What is the equivalent zoom of the included DRebel lense (compared to the G3's 4x zoom)?

Thanks again for all your input

I don't find the exposed LCD a problem. In any event, I know that 10D owners have been able to replace the plastic cover to the LCD for about $10US. I expect that the 300D is similar.

The kit lens is 18-55mm, equivalent to 28.8 - 88mm. I use a Canon 24-85mm as an everyday lens, and it's about equal to a 38-136mm on a full frame camera. If I recall correctly, the G3 has an equivalent 38-140mm lens.

[civis]

drisley wrote:
Thanks people.

One thing that worries me about the DRebel (that I didnt like with my S30) is that the LCD doesn't swivel, and hence can't be protected from scratching when stored.

Just stick an LCD protector on it.

[vsolanoy]

The one thing to remember about the DRebel, but specifically with the 10D (since it's what I have) is that they really are digital SLRs, so there's no composing with the LCD screen, which I haven't found to be too much of a bother. I find the benefit of virtually no shutterlag to be a huge advantage over having the convenience of composing with the LCD.

Now that I have both a G3 and DSLR, I find reasons to use both. The G3 is a great snapshot camera with tons of creative control, but the DSLRs offer the level of control photography purists want, although the 10D and the DRebel differ in "post-processing". The DRebel's image quality is more akin to what you would expect in the G3/G5 without Photoshop tweaking.

I would recommend the DRebel only if your creative outlet has exceeded the optical limitations of the G3... AND, if you've got a stockpile of EOS EF lenses that aren't too old (the older lenses do not work on the newer generation Canon EOS film and digital cameras), the DRebel would be worthwhile to expand your digital imaging arsonal.

One thing to be aware of however, when I was comparison shopping between the DRebel and the 10D, the DRebel actually had fewer features than the G3 in terms of camera control (no selectable metering in the creative modes that you may be accustomed to... spot, partial, evaluative). In comparing the DRebel to my Rebel 2000, in terms of general features, they really are very close to each other.

If you do get the DRebel, I also recommend sprinnging the extra $100 for the lens kit. One thing that can be somewhat frustrating is factoring in the 1.6x factor... at 17mm in the DRebel kit, you get the equivalent of a wide angle 28mm lens. Using a standard 28mm zoom really only gives you the equivalent of 44.8mm lens when zoom-ed out.

Right now, I'm eyeing the Sigma DSLR lens kit for that very reason.

Victor

[drisley]

I found this interesting comparison of pictures taken with the G3 and DRebel.
The DRebel pics are much softer.
In addition, I've read alot about problems with the white balance on the DRebel (especially compared to the G3, and the 10d which is odd since the 10d images are othersise so similar).

The white balance problem of the DRebel is very apparent in this test.
http://www.pbase.com/ludo_verhoeven/eos_300d_g3