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What are the rules on photographing models under 18, is it ok if the photographer is under 18 photographing swimsuit etc as long as its non nude

Post #1, Oct 28, 2006 17:12:24


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any comments

Post #2, Oct 28, 2006 17:22:06


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You might need to wait more than 9 minutes.

Post #3, Oct 28, 2006 17:23:42


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Post #4, Oct 28, 2006 17:37:12


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In California, a minor (child) is anyone under 18 years of age. It would wise for you to have the model's parent or legal guardian sign a model release for the minor and a contract which would specify how the images are to be used. And make sure you have that adult present at all times while you shoot! Even better would be to have another adult you know present too.

One small misconstrued action by you or if the model gets upset about something and tries to fabricate a story about you being inappropriate , then at least the adults were there too.

The rules you let your model and parents know about up front tells them that you operate in a safe and professional way.

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tigrinus wrote in post #2182987external link
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I thought so. :D

Post #6, Oct 28, 2006 17:50:08


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were you contacted by an under 18 model or are you persuing one? personally, unless I was good friends with them, i wouldn't shoot anyone under 18.

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When we took our daughter to a pro to have senior photos done (this obviously was before we started shooting for ourselves), she was under 18 and I had to sign a release for her. It seems to be common practice, both for the safety of the teen and the photographer to have a parental release form. Also, this pro wouldn't shoot anyone under 18 w/o a parent present at the shoot. Also a wise move in my book.

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I wouldn't touch a model that didn't look at least 25 and that couldn't produce verifiable ID that she was 25+. All it takes is for some troublemaking brat to scream paedophile and even though it wouldn't be justified, bang would go your reputation and away would go your clientelle. I've seen teachers' careers destroyed by spoilt brats yelling paedophile - even though it was later proven to be a false accusation. The accusation lies on file as "unproved" and no employer will thus ever touch them so they have to change career. It's very sad but in today's guilty-after-accusation world you have to think safety.

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25? wow that's excluding a good number of very attractive women, I dunno if the false report rates for such things necessitates such a strict standard, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

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Is the main topic of this thread concerning photographs for commercial purposes, or just general photography? My 14-year old step daughter is having a birthday party here today. I spent a half hour or so earlier taking some fun, goofy posed shots of her, a couple of her friends and my daughter in my make-shift home studio in the basement. Now I'm thinking maybe I should burn my hard drive just to be safe. :p

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I'd be carefull with her friends in the basement.. Sorry, but it just sounds creepy...

Taking pictures at a birthday party would be fine, but the invite into your studio, crosses the line for me.

Post #12, Oct 29, 2006 07:15:39


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I was approached by this model she is actually a very good friend of mine, Its not such an issue of pedophile as Im under the age of 18 also. Does that make a difference.

Post #13, Oct 29, 2006 07:49:20


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So i should get some model releases and parental forms but it is legal to photograph models under 18 as long as there is no nudity

Post #15, Oct 29, 2006 08:17:58


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