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Nov 22, 2006 18:50 |  #1

Hello...I am in search of a new backpack, one I can where while mountain biking. I have looked around and I like the way the Expeditions hold the tripod on the back, the Lowepro I have now hangs it on the bottom, and it bounced off of my lower back while riding.

But I am wondering if the Bogen 3021/488RC2 tripod setup fits well on the Expedition 5. I won't be able to get to a shop that sells them for a few weeks, but thought I could get some input before hand.

If it doesn't fit too well, I will just have to go up to the 7, but all of the images I have seen of the 7 seem to be too much for my kit.

Thanks for any help...:D


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Nov 22, 2006 18:53 |  #2

Mac wrote in post #2301010 (external link)
Hello...I am in search of a new backpack, one I can where while mountain biking. I have looked around and I like the way the Expeditions hold the tripod on the back, the Lowepro I have now hangs it on the bottom, and it bounced off of my lower back while riding.

But I am wondering if the Bogen 3021/488RC2 tripod setup fits well on the Expedition 5. I won't be able to get to a shop that sells them for a few weeks, but thought I could get some input before hand.

If it doesn't fit too well, I will just have to go up to the 7, but all of the images I have seen of the 7 seem to be too much for my kit.

I would not want to strap my 3021/488RC2 to ANY camera bag. I recommend a "long strap" or a separate bag with its own shoulder strap to carry the tripod. The tripod/head rig are just too large and heavy, in my opinion, to strap it to an already heavy camera bag. It would be much too cumbersome to handle easily and safely.

I carry my tripod across my back while hauling my camera, lenses, and related stuff in a large shoulder bag (Lowepro Stealth Reporter 650 AW).

edit - I missed the mountain biking part. The trick here, I feel, would be to choose a limited amount of gear and pack light.


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Nov 22, 2006 19:13 |  #3

I have the expedition 5, and am considering the same exact tripod combo. Just got my bag down and measured it. The center of the bag, with the tripod straps, is about 14-15 inches high, which means you're going to have a good 10-12 inches of tripod sticking above the top of the bag. The stapping on the bag is plenty stout, so I wouldn't worry about strapping a tripod to the bag. It will just be a little tall and bulky. You don't list your kit, but everything in my sig fits in the 5, with room to grow. I've toyed with the idea of one of the more economic cf tripods from Feisol, or Amvona, to help with the weight factor, and to also find something that has a shorter collapsed length.




  
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Nov 22, 2006 20:14 |  #4

Mac wrote in post #2301010 (external link)
I am in search of a new backpack, one I can where while mountain biking..........

What thou needest is a Slik Sprint Pro with Ball head. I have the Manfrotto 3021BPro and the Slik Sprint Pro. The Slik goes where the Manfrotto does not go. The 3021 works best when you have a car trunk and/or you need to hike 150 feet to the subject.


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Nov 22, 2006 20:52 |  #5

I have the Expedition 5 and there's no way I'd put such a top heavy load as the bogen on it. I got an Amvona CF81 for mine. Its carbon fiber, short enough to strap to the Expo 5, very light (w/Benro KS-1 ball head < 4 lnbs), and very sturdy for its size. I paid only about $40.00 on ebay. My other tripod setup is a Benro C298 w/KS-2 head . Its a lot more substantial, holds 17.5 lbs, is short enough for the short Expo 5, and is still only about 5 lbs.




  
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Nov 23, 2006 11:19 |  #6

Thanks for the input folks...it gives me some ideas. Would the 7 be a better idea, or will I run into the same issue having such a heavy tripod?

As for my kit:

300D
100-400
70-200 f/4 (not always with me)
Tamron 28-75
Tokina 12-24
Cokin Filter holder and filters
Hoya CP
cleaning supplies, batteries...etc...

I am pretty sure it would all fit into the Exp. 5...but I have thought about the 7 for room to grow and now possibly to hold the tripod...or maybe it is time for a second tripid...:D


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Nov 23, 2006 12:05 |  #7

Here is some more food for thought.
Manfrotto 3021BPro w/ 308ProBall head with a Slik Sprint Pro with Ball head

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Its a lightweight tripod with lots of compromises when compared to 3021, but for the price and utility its pretty good.

I wonder how long I have to hang out on POTN before I get as good as Ansel Adams ?

  
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Nov 24, 2006 20:08 |  #8

Hrmm....thanks for the photos, really helps put things in perspective...now time for some digging...:D


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Nov 25, 2006 14:43 |  #9

Mac wrote in post #2303854 (external link)
I am pretty sure it would all fit into the Exp. 5...but I have thought about the 7 for room to grow and now possibly to hold the tripod...or maybe it is time for a second tripid...:D

It will all fit into an Expo 5...I've got more than that in mine. It all depends on how much gear you want to carry. The Expo 7 will certainly carry more, (and accomodate a larger or longer tripod for sure), but my expo 5 when full is pretty heavy as it is...probably > 30 lbs. If the cost of the Expo 7 hadn't been so much more than what I paid for my expo 5, I'd have gotten it instead - mainly due to the ergonomics involved... the expo 5 is a little short for my body.




  
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Nov 26, 2006 09:26 |  #10

The weight isn't the end of the world. As it sits now, I carry all of that in my Lowepro backpack and it is not bad...and I don't usually take everything. I just need to be able to carry the tripod with me for some of the shoots I have planned next spring, and it will mainly be by mountain bike.

Also, I am not a short guy, standing at 6' 2", so maybe the exp. 7 is the way I should go then...


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Nov 26, 2006 13:43 |  #11

Mac wrote in post #2301010 (external link)
Hello...I am in search of a new backpack, one I can where while mountain biking. I have looked around and I like the way the Expeditions hold the tripod on the back, the Lowepro I have now hangs it on the bottom, and it bounced off of my lower back while riding.

But I am wondering if the Bogen 3021/488RC2 tripod setup fits well on the Expedition 5.

Check out the Think Tank 360
http://www.thinktankph​oto.com/ (external link)
The pack has an extra tripod strap that hangs the tripod aoubt 8" lower for longer pods.
This bag also has a unique system whereby the lower portion can be free to rotate to the front to change lenses or get your camera out.
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Apr 21, 2012 06:55 as a reply to  @ Mike K's post |  #12

Hi there!

I'm aware this thread is now about 6 years old, but if any of you still have the expedition 5 or 6, can you help me? I'm thinking of buying one, and have no issues about it fitting my gear except for laptop.
If any of you have the Expedition 5 or 6, can you tell me if you are able to fit a 15inch laptop into either? I want to carry a macbook pro with me, but don't want to buy a huge bag like the 7, when I wouldn't ave the gear to fill it.

Any help is appreciated!


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