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I am no proffesional, but I love my photography and I want to ask anyone who has had a 5D or owns a 1Ds-MKII ,is it worth getting the 1Ds-MKII or ... what I am really thinking of ,a 1Ds-MKIII? (the mark has not come out yet so there is no point asking about it).

What advantages do you personaly see over the 5D ,purely from a photo quality perspective? And is it worth getting getting it in your oppinion just for those advantages? (I don't care about the weather seals, however it would also be a handy feature)

Another reason is the fact that changing ISO ect, ect can not be done without the lock release.

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I've got both the 5D and the IdsII. I use the 5D more because I personally prefer the smaller size and think its a bit better holding down noise in dark areas. Pictures, especially portraits, seem very smooth.
But the 1DsII focuses much better in low light and for large prints (11 X14 and up) I think I can see the detail difference.

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Thanks Roger. I personaly like the feel of the 1Ds, in my hands the 5D seems a little on the small size, but the size does not really bother me that much.

My main concern is the noise and image quality, but I always try to shoot with low ISO (of couse you can't do that all the time). This makes this a really hard decision. Thanks for the input.

Post #3, Jan 03, 2007 22:06:44 as a reply to Roger Cicala's post 40 minutes earlier.


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had the 5D twice. Traded up to the 1dsmk2 each time. I think the noise difference is so nominal there really is none. As far as IQ, think it goes to 1dsmk2. nothing like cropping a shot by half and having 8 mp left!!!

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Dante King wrote in post #2486089external link
had the 5D twice. Traded up to the 1dsmk2 each time. I think the noise difference is so nominal there really is none. As far as IQ, think it goes to 1dsmk2. nothing like cropping a shot by half and having 8 mp left!!!

Thankj Dante. This was my initial thoughts on the 1Ds-MKII, hense the reason for the upgrade. I also found that the 5D does not like being croped that much as image quality suffers a bit due to the pixel density on the CMOS. The 30D I once had took croping really well and theoreticaly speaking the noise on a 1Ds should be less than a 30D too? Why I ask is b/c I found that the noise on the 30D not too bad when shot at reasonably high ISO's.

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I am wondering if there isn't a 1Dsmk2n coming in March. Give it the same treatment as the 1Dmk2n....I tried a 5D and just couldn't get excited about the feel of it in my hands...the 1Ds just feels better to me...and perhaps come spring...a 1Dsmk2n will feel the same.

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I used 1Dsmk2 and still that 5D in its box new didn't open yet;).
1Dsmk2 faster than 5D, and much better in focus, and i am sure in IQ they both are the same but still 1Dsmk2 higher specially when i want to print larger than 11X14 up to say 24X36.

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Tareq wrote in post #2486363external link
I used 1Dsmk2 and still that 5D in its box new didn't open yet;).

Sell - then buy the 400L or 300L!!!!!!!!

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grego wrote in post #2486576external link
Sell - then buy the 400L or 300L!!!!!!!!

I agree!!!:lol:

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Tareq wrote in post #2486363external link
I used 1Dsmk2 and still that 5D in its box new didn't open yet;).
1Dsmk2 faster than 5D, and much better in focus, and i am sure in IQ they both are the same but still 1Dsmk2 higher specially when i want to print larger than 11X14 up to say 24X36.

You say better focus, but in what way? Does the AF give better spot focus? Or is it b/c of the 45 point AF?

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Tareq wrote in post #2486363external link
I used 1Dsmk2 and still that 5D in its box new didn't open yet;).
1Dsmk2 faster than 5D, and much better in focus, and i am sure in IQ they both are the same but still 1Dsmk2 higher specially when i want to print larger than 11X14 up to say 24X36.

how often is that?

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Woolburr wrote in post #2486321external link
I am wondering if there isn't a 1Dsmk2n coming in March. Give it the same treatment as the 1Dmk2n....I tried a 5D and just couldn't get excited about the feel of it in my hands...the 1Ds just feels better to me...and perhaps come spring...a 1Dsmk2n will feel the same.

really doubt this. no reason for it.

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ashdavid wrote in post #2486654external link
You say better focus, but in what way? Does the AF give better spot focus? Or is it b/c of the 45 point AF?

faster and more accurate. the 45 AF points are just gravy!

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ed rader wrote in post #2486767external link
how often is that?

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not often for me. I print the BEST 4x6s on my block.

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Dante King wrote in post #2486790external link
really doubt this. no reason for it.

I would think it would have the same reason as the upgrade to the 1Dmk2n. Bigger LCD stirs people up...they haven't introduced a firmware update to give full feature to the dual card setup...and we can't forget the picture styles.;)

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