Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...!

angryhampster · 6th of March 2007 (Tue)

So in searching for a better filter setup for my lenses, I've decided that I want to go stick with Hoya because they've proven to be good in the past for me and they've got a great rep on here..without the price of B+W and Heliopan. I have a couple of standard Hoya CPL filters, and they've treated me very nicely. I want to upgrade to multicoat filters though, for both UV and CPL. Even Hoya's website isn't that clear, would I benefit that much from an SHMC vs a Pro1 DMC?

dziuggy · 6th of March 2007 (Tue)

Hoya Green series - no multicoating, made in philipines

Hoya Standard - 2 layers, made in japan

Hoya HMC - allows ~97% of light to pass through (not sure how many layer coating), made in japan

Hoya Super HMC - 12 layer multi coating, allows 99.7% of light to pass

Froggeh · 1st of January 2009 (Thu)

sorry to grave-dig a post, but does this still hold true? and does anyone have a side by side comparison of the HMC and S-HMC UV filters?

Jon · 1st of January 2009 (Thu)

Yes it does.

tundraman · 1st of January 2009 (Thu)

Here's a thread I found.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/p...son-tests.html

Pat H · 2nd of January 2009 (Fri)

Better just to go with the SHMC IMO. It's the best they have to offer and a worth while investment. You want your filters to be intruding on your image quality as little as possible.

tundraman · 2nd of January 2009 (Fri)

Here's a great thread on filters.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...ns-filters.htm

Wilt · 4th of January 2009 (Sun)

'Digital' seems to be a marketing gimmick! In the Hoya line, Hoya publishes that the light transmission thru the double coated is 93-94%, thru the HMC is 97%, thru the SHMC is 99.7% (B+W has 99.6%, newest Heliopans have 99.8% tranmission). The 'digital' Hoya have a number of newer gimmicks 'for digital'...I call them gimmicks because unlike any of their prior features, Hoya publishes NO QUANTITATIVE assessment of the benefit from any of the digital features! And they somewhat reluctantly acknowledge that the 'digital' filters only have the same transmission as the HMC filters, at 97% ! The newest line, the HD line comes closest to equalling the transmission performance of the SHMC at 99.35%, but it still falls short.

Hoya Single coated = 94% transmission, Hoya HMC = 97% transmission, Hoya Digital = 97%, Hoya HD = 99.35%
B+W MRC = 99.6% transmission, Hoya SHMC = 99.7% transmission, newest Heliopan = 99.8% transmission

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6th of March 2007 (Tue)	#1
angryhampster "Got a thick monopod?" Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,846	Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...! So in searching for a better filter setup for my lenses, I've decided that I want to go stick with Hoya because they've proven to be good in the past for me and they've got a great rep on here..without the price of B+W and Heliopan. I have a couple of standard Hoya CPL filters, and they've treated me very nicely. I want to upgrade to multicoat filters though, for both UV and CPL. Even Hoya's website isn't that clear, would I benefit that much from an SHMC vs a Pro1 DMC? __________________ Steve Lexa Iowa City Wedding Photography Lights, Cameras, Lenses, Empty pockets.

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dziuggy Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: san francisco, ca Posts: 56	Re: Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...! Hoya Green series - no multicoating, made in philipines Hoya Standard - 2 layers, made in japan Hoya HMC - allows ~97% of light to pass through (not sure how many layer coating), made in japan Hoya Super HMC - 12 layer multi coating, allows 99.7% of light to pass __________________ My Gear

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Froggeh Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 339 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...! sorry to grave-dig a post, but does this still hold true? and does anyone have a side by side comparison of the HMC and S-HMC UV filters? __________________ 5D & 50D \| 17-40 f/4L \| Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar 35 f/2 \| Pentacon 135 f/2.8 Preset \| Minolta Rokkor 50/1.4 and 58/1.4 \| Tamron 90mm \| 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS \| 580EX II

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tundraman Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 321 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...! Here's a thread I found. http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/p...son-tests.html

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Pat H Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 160 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...! Better just to go with the SHMC IMO. It's the best they have to offer and a worth while investment. You want your filters to be intruding on your image quality as little as possible. __________________ Canon T2i with grip \| 24-105 f/4L IS \| 70-200 f/4L \| Canon 430EX Speedlite \| P&S: Canon PowerShot S110 \| Manfrotto 055Xprob w/ 488RC2 Mac Pro \| PS CS5

4th of January 2009 (Sun)	#8
Wilt Cream of the Crop Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California Posts: 30,957 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Hoya filters...standard vs Pro1 vs HMC vs SHMC vs DMC?...! 'Digital' seems to be a marketing gimmick! In the Hoya line, Hoya publishes that the light transmission thru the double coated is 93-94%, thru the HMC is 97%, thru the SHMC is 99.7% (B+W has 99.6%, newest Heliopans have 99.8% tranmission). The 'digital' Hoya have a number of newer gimmicks 'for digital'...I call them gimmicks because unlike any of their prior features, Hoya publishes NO QUANTITATIVE assessment of the benefit from any of the digital features! And they somewhat reluctantly acknowledge that the 'digital' filters only have the same transmission as the HMC filters, at 97% ! The newest line, the HD line comes closest to equalling the transmission performance of the SHMC at 99.35%, but it still falls short. Hoya Single coated = 94% transmission, Hoya HMC = 97% transmission, Hoya Digital = 97%, Hoya HD = 99.35% B+W MRC = 99.6% transmission, Hoya SHMC = 99.7% transmission, newest Heliopan = 99.8% transmission http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...80&postcount=2 http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...69&postcount=8 __________________ Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention Keep POTN alive and well with member support http://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php Last edited by Wilt : 4th of January 2009 (Sun) at 09:57.

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