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Old 30th of March 2007 (Fri)   #46
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whats this synching your camera time with PC time? how does that work? i have never looked at that part before
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I've never done it either and I use two cameras - perhaps I'm missing something that will come back and bite me later - but I normally sort everything from both cameras in a single Bridge directory with no problem.

I generally keep the shots pretty much in chronological order, but I will rearrange shots from both cameras, often out of chrono synch, so that overall things will "visually" make more sense.

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whats this synching your camera time with PC time? how does that work? i have never looked at that part before
This means that the camera gets the same time as the computer has. If you have only one camera then it's not of great importance, but it helps with two or even more cameras as they get the same time base and you can sort easily by time all files for getting the correct order. There are several applications who support the merging images from different cameras, but they require the same time base.

It can be done with the utility software included with the camera. Either by USB cable or by firewire cable (1D series only).
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Syncing camera times means if you sort by the date the images was taken they'll be in the right order. If one camera is 5 minutes ahead of the other and you swap between two cameras quickly (which I do) then things will be out of order. A few minutes out isn't too bad, but once I had a camera hours out and it was really frustrating my both myself and the client.
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Syncing camera times means if you sort by the date the images was taken they'll be in the right order. If one camera is 5 minutes ahead of the other and you swap between two cameras quickly (which I do) then things will be out of order. A few minutes out isn't too bad, but once I had a camera hours out and it was really frustrating my both myself and the client.
tim, do you do this manually or is there a software for it?
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tim, do you do this manually or is there a software for it?
EOS Viewer does it. It's something like settings/options, then there's a button that does it. Plug the camera into the computer before you start eos viewer, once you've done one camera close eos viewer, unplug the camera, then repeat for each camera.

Daylight savings finished her recently, my cameras today are an hour fast, but they're both consistently and precisely an hour fast

I think i'll bring the "bourbon" step of my workflow a bit closer to the start tonight... just back from a wedding, a 12-13 hour day.
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Flash limits who can see your site so I don't use it.
This isn't necessarily true. Check this out...

http://www.adobe.com/products/player...s/flashplayer/

I, too, originally though Flash is something that a large majority of people didn't have installed. It turns out this isn't so true. However, that doesn't mean there's not a bunch of sites out there with poorly designed Flash sites
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I have worked for companies that blocked flash as well as Javascript at the web proxy level. Also in corporate installs of flash they're sometimes quite out of date and flash content may not work. As time goes on and flash matures I expect the situation to improve, but for now i'm sticking with html/css. I have a little knowledge in this area, i've been a professional software developer for ten years.
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Flash all the way!
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Let's not turn this into a thread about flash, please.
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I have a little knowledge in this area, i've been a professional software developer for ten years.
lol, i don't know why, but that statement makes me laugh.

Anyways, my whole point was that there's more and more people who already have flash installed on their machines, so it's difinitely not something everyone needs to shy away from. I can, however, understand where you're coming from. I checked out your site and the site design is well suited for html/css. I'm not much of a Flash-lover myself. I think it's nice, but some sites are way over done and the animations just take too long to load.
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Flash does continue to mature and more people can view that content.

However, from a search engine optimization standpoint, search engines simply can't read sites that are constructed as flash movies. When searching, engines need text in an html file. They can't read text embedded in a movie file.
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lol, i don't know why, but that statement makes me laugh.

Anyways, my whole point was that there's more and more people who already have flash installed on their machines, so it's difinitely not something everyone needs to shy away from. I can, however, understand where you're coming from. I checked out your site and the site design is well suited for html/css. I'm not much of a Flash-lover myself. I think it's nice, but some sites are way over done and the animations just take too long to load.
look up every single big time pro wedding photographer and they have a flash site - as soon as i can afford it, i'm upgrading mine. i love them, they look so very professional.
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Thanks, Tim. I cut and paste and put will definitely get some use of this as I shoot a wedding this Friday. The workflow for me isn't so rigorous. I told the bride I am only processing 20 shots to blow up. The rest I'm printing up. Not getting paid too much for this one, but will look at your process to make the next big one less stressful.

And thanks for keeping the thread going.
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Just regarding time synching cameras, I think this is very important and considering how little time it takes (we did all 4 of our cameras in about a minute and half) the benefits are great.

We shot last Saturday with 4 cameras between the two of us and then dumped all the photos onto my macbook with a directory for each card, we then ran an automation task we had created beforehand that renamed all the photos to CODE+DATE+TIME+ORIGINAL FILE NAME and moved them into just 2 directories, one for JPG and one for CR2's.

This meant that when we came to do our slideshow at the end of the day we just had to pull the images we wanted to use from the JPG directory and point our showit template at where we had pulled them to and they were already in the right order to tell the story of the day.
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