problem !!

Fireblade · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

This is the website of

Robgr85.

The picture in his banner is mine. I posted it on this thread. Robert (robgr85) emailed and pm'ed me asking for permission to use the photo after he had posted it on his website, along with a copyright notice at the bottom of his page saying all photos are © to him ! My watermark has been removed.

I asked Robert to either remove the photo or to buy a digital download from my gallery. I sell low res photos for $5.

I don't want to start a flame war but the principal here is that I took the photo. It is © to me. If he wants the photo he can buy it. By leaving it on his site and claiming © he is in breach of copyright. I do wonder if this is acceptable behaviour for a member of this forum?

kona77 · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Fireblade,
I certainly do not think this is fair. One of the reasons that I post my pics on this forum is because you need to be a registered member to view the photos. This makes me feel a bit more secure in posting.
I hope this gets resolved to your satisfaction.

Fireblade · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kona77

Fireblade,
I certainly do not think this is fair. One of the reasons that I post my pics on this forum is because you need to be a registered member to view the photos. This makes me feel a bit more secure in posting.
I hope this gets resolved to your satisfaction.

thanks Kona, I appreciate your support.

Seamus.

René Damkot · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Simple. You are right, he is wrong...
What was his reply to your asking to remove it?

Fireblade · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by René Damkot

Simple. You are right, he is wrong...
What was his reply to your asking to remove it?

he offered to put the watermark back on the photo. He really is taking the p*ss

Seamus.

René Damkot · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

I'd say all is well then?
One lives and learns...

Glenn NK · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Well, there's nothing like getting a black mark on one's name - particularly when one puts it there one's self.

I don't forget names easily - the bookmark feature is useful.

PhotoJourno · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Ok, everyone time out:

I think this is a good a time as any, to tell everyone about a simple tip that can keep people out of trouble:

" IF YOU ARE A PHOTOGRAPHER, AND A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY NOT USE OTHER MEMBERS IMAGES (Specially Copy and Paste, not against purchasing) ON YOUR OWN SITE. IT IS SIMPLY DUMB"

Sorry, I knew I was forgetting to say something all this time.

Please, go on.

(I would have PMed a Mod directly, but I think overall this thread does more damage to the individual who disrispected your work, than anything else. You now have to allow the person to defend themselves though, that may suck but I heard it works that way).

Fireblade · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by René Damkot

I'd say all is well then?
One lives and learns...

Unfortunately not René, my picture is still on his website without permission. I would like the picture removed.

Wilt · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

I certainly am well convinced of the prior publication by Seamus on POTN years ago, comparing it side by side to Robgr85's web site. All POTN members should send an email to Robgr85 advising him of his infringement, and maybe the moderators should ban him from POTN!

Fireblade · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgravina

Ok, everyone time out:

I think this is a good a time as any, to tell everyone about a simple tip that can keep people out of trouble:

" IF YOU ARE A PHOTOGRAPHER, AND A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY NOT USE OTHER MEMBERS IMAGES (Specially Copy and Paste, not against purchasing) ON YOUR OWN SITE. IT IS SIMPLY DUMB"

Sorry, I knew I was forgetting to say something all this time.

Please, go on.

(I would have PMed a Mod directly, but I think overall this thread does more damage to the individual who disrispected your work, than anything else). You now have to allow the person to defend themselves though, that may suck but I heard it works that way).

what defence does he have? he put my picture on his website without permission. He removed the watermark. he was asked to remove the picture from his website and he made the derisory offer of re-instating the watermark. He was told that he could buy a digital download for (a reasonable) $5 and hasn't. This is a breach of the rules of this forum.

PhotoJourno · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireblade

what defence does he have? he put my picture on his website without permission. He removed the watermark. he was asked to remove the picture from his website and he made the derisory offer of re-instating the watermark. He was told that he could buy a digital download for (a reasonable) $5 and hasn't. This is a breach of the rules of this forum.

Glad you asked. Here is my take:

Though I took it humorously, there is a very serious tone to the post. I can't just go around and using forum photos for my own website. I mean it is a nice idea in concept, but everything about it is wrong (can you imagine if we all did that?... insane)

I am hoping that the photo is removed, apologies are made, and thread locked. But that is just me. I am famous for not thinking like most people. I am sorry that someone made a bad decision by using your work, and I hope it gets resolved.

Fireblade · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgravina

Glad you asked. Here is my take:

I am hoping that the photo is removed, apologies are made, and thread locked. But that is just me. I am famous for not thinking like most people. I am sorry that someone made a bad decision, and I hope it gets resolved.

that is the sensible thing to do and I appreciate your input Mario.

René Damkot · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgravina

I hope it gets resolved.

Same here...

robgr85 · 25th of May 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireblade

This is the website of

Robgr85.

The picture in his banner is mine. I posted it on this thread. Robert (robgr85) emailed and pm'ed me asking for permission to use the photo after he had posted it on his website, along with a copyright notice at the bottom of his page saying all photos are © to him ! My watermark has been removed.

I asked Robert to either remove the photo or to buy a digital download from my gallery. I sell low res photos for $5.

I don't want to start a flame war but the principal here is that I took the photo. It is © to me. If he wants the photo he can buy it. By leaving it on his site and claiming © he is in breach of copyright. I do wonder if this is acceptable behaviour for a member of this forum?

chill out man!

As I have written to You, this website is only 'team project' for my school purpose and after review of my teacher it will be taken down. All of the images too. The gallery was made by one of my friends, do not know where he had taken the photos from. I'm the author of layout (in which i manipulated Your picture) and all scripts used for managing the website.

I'm not stealing the images. I thought It would be good idea to ask for the permission of the author of the picture. I asked, then! You refused, so I 'll remove it in few hours if You do not allow to use it(would be cool to use it ~10 days more, but I'll find another picture to replace it, now I'm going to sleep so it will take about 10-12h). What is the problem? Why to post it there? RelaX!

Robert,

© - it is about text & all scripts used to build site into one piece.

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#1
Fireblade Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ireland Posts: 91	problem !! This is the website of Robgr85. The picture in his banner is mine. I posted it on this thread. Robert (robgr85) emailed and pm'ed me asking for permission to use the photo after he had posted it on his website, along with a copyright notice at the bottom of his page saying all photos are © to him ! My watermark has been removed. I asked Robert to either remove the photo or to buy a digital download from my gallery. I sell low res photos for $5. I don't want to start a flame war but the principal here is that I took the photo. It is © to me. If he wants the photo he can buy it. By leaving it on his site and claiming © he is in breach of copyright. I do wonder if this is acceptable behaviour for a member of this forum? __________________ http://www.sportspix.ie/

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#2
kona77 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern ME Posts: 1,584 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: problem !! Fireblade, I certainly do not think this is fair. One of the reasons that I post my pics on this forum is because you need to be a registered member to view the photos. This makes me feel a bit more secure in posting. I hope this gets resolved to your satisfaction. __________________ Proud father of a 8 year old son with Down Syndrome. ______________________________________________ Check out my other photos on Razzi

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#4
René Damkot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands Posts: 39,517 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: problem !! Simple. You are right, he is wrong... What was his reply to your asking to remove it? __________________ "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams Why Color Management. Color Problems? Click here. MySpace Get Colormanaged Twitter PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#6
René Damkot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands Posts: 39,517 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: problem !! I'd say all is well then? One lives and learns... __________________ "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams Why Color Management. Color Problems? Click here. MySpace Get Colormanaged Twitter PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#7
Glenn NK Goldmember Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 4,528 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: problem !! Well, there's nothing like getting a black mark on one's name - particularly when one puts it there one's self. I don't forget names easily - the bookmark feature is useful. __________________ "Be yourself - everyone else is taken". Oscar Wilde

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#8
PhotoJourno High Plains Chimper Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lago, CA Posts: 5,563 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: problem !! Ok, everyone time out: I think this is a good a time as any, to tell everyone about a simple tip that can keep people out of trouble: " IF YOU ARE A PHOTOGRAPHER, AND A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY NOT USE OTHER MEMBERS IMAGES (Specially Copy and Paste, not against purchasing) ON YOUR OWN SITE. IT IS SIMPLY DUMB" Sorry, I knew I was forgetting to say something all this time. Please, go on. (I would have PMed a Mod directly, but I think overall this thread does more damage to the individual who disrispected your work, than anything else. You now have to allow the person to defend themselves though, that may suck but I heard it works that way). __________________ Mario, Canonista Maximus. "Go Ahead, make my frame..." 50D / Magic Lantern / Lenses n' Things...

25th of May 2007 (Fri)	#10
Wilt Cream of the Crop Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California Posts: 30,955 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: problem !! I certainly am well convinced of the prior publication by Seamus on POTN years ago, comparing it side by side to Robgr85's web site. All POTN members should send an email to Robgr85 advising him of his infringement, and maybe the moderators should ban him from POTN! __________________ Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention Keep POTN alive and well with member support http://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php

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