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I'm going back to the zoo but most of the animals are behind chain link fences. Haven't tried this yet, but will it be possible to use my 70-300 lens and zoom past the links to get a clear shot of the animals?

Any suggestions on how to blur our the fence links? Thanks :)

Post #1, Jul 13, 2007 09:42:00


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Zoom to 300 and shoot wide open.

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400mm & wide open aperture.

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My second shot is manual focus through a 1" spaced fence.

There usually isn't a problem focusing through a standard chain link fence, but the smaller animals have the smaller fence and it can be troublesome.

I be sure to focus to infinity before you try to shoot through the fence it will help keep your camera from finding & focusing on the fence itself.

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Here's a newbie question. When Focusing to infinity, is that the same as using A-Dep? I have a Rebel XTi. Thanks :)

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no it's pointing your camera at something far away, like the sky and focusing.

Your gonna want to shoot in Av with your lowest aperture setting, and adjust ISO accordingly to keep your pictures sharp.

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Thanks. I also figured out where the infinity symbol is on the lens. Appreciate it

**Oh, cute monkey shot btw! :)

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As long as you are at f/5.6 or less and the animal is not right up against the fence, it shouldn't be a problem.

In this picture I was about 2 feet away from the fence and the eagle was only 7 feet away (f/5.6).

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Hmmm.... Looks like the American Bored eagle.

Good shot, though.

I like the zen monkey in post 3. Can almost hear it going "ooooommmmmm...."

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20droger wrote in post #3539005external link
Hmmm.... Looks like the American Bored eagle.

Good shot, though.

I like the zen monkey in post 3. Can almost hear it going "ooooommmmmm...."

Being caged up in a zoo most of the time is bound to get boring eventually. :confused:

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20droger wrote in post #3539005external link
Hmmm.... Looks like the American Bored eagle.

Good shot, though.

I like the zen monkey in post 3. Can almost hear it going "ooooommmmmm...."


Zen is as Zen does... I believe that this partiular primate needs to release some inner tention before finding inner peace!

I've had mixed results with shooting through fence and netting. A lot has to do with the light to start with - bright sunlight makes it tough to get the aperture open enough in some cases I've found. I need to practice more for sure before I get it right. Pretty much hosed though if you have small distance between the screen/fence/netting and the animal.

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BigBadBrain wrote in post #3540162external link
Zen is as Zen does... I believe that this partiular primate needs to release some inner tention before finding inner peace!

I've had mixed results with shooting through fence and netting. A lot has to do with the light to start with - bright sunlight makes it tough to get the aperture open enough in some cases I've found. I need to practice more for sure before I get it right. Pretty much hosed though if you have small distance between the screen/fence/netting and the animal.

It would have to be pretty bright to max out your camera at 1/8000sec at f/5.6 & iso 100 in Av mode.

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just shoot wide opened and no fence shows up. But, make sure u are on manual focus or you'll get nice shot of fence.

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BigBadBrain wrote in post #3540162external link
I've had mixed results with shooting through fence and netting. A lot has to do with the light to start with - bright sunlight makes it tough to get the aperture open enough in some cases I've found. I need to practice more for sure before I get it right. Pretty much hosed though if you have small distance between the screen/fence/netting and the animal.

continuing on the point that ryant35 raised...

ISO 100 setting means having f/16 1/100 combination in sun, per the Sunny 16 rule of thumb. To change from 1/100 to 1/6400 is -6 f/stops less light (1/100...1/200... 1/400... 1/800... 1/1600... 1/3200... 1/6400.) To offset that shutter speed reduction in light you need to open up the lens aperture +6 f/stops...to f/2 (f/16...f/11...f/8...f​/5.6...f/4...f/2.8...f​2)

...so you see in bright sun there really is not a situation of being limited in the aperture you can use to limit DOF

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In addition to what's been said above, the best way if getting rid of the fence is to get as close as you can to it. If possible, take the lens hood off and jam the lens right up against the fence. Get it in the right place and the fence will be unnoticable, even at full crop.

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