Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering

canoflan · 27th of July 2007 (Fri)

Just heard from Bogen Imaging and here is the quote:

Greetings,
Thanks for the inquiry regarding the Metz 58 AF-1. If you own a Canon version of the flash, it is unable to fire from a Pocket Wizard and there is no firmware update coming that will allow this to happen. It is a hardware issue, not a firmware issue. If you own the Nikon version of the 58 AF-1, you can use it with a Pocket Wizard right now. It requires a PC to Hot Shoe Adapter (Kalt makes one found at most photo dealers) & a minipohone male to PC Female adapter (sold by Pocket Wizard - cat # 80-4-605).

Regards, and thanks for choosing Metz.

There you have it. I am going to sell mine and get a Nikon version because I really like the secondary reflector.

Pat

farrukh · 27th of July 2007 (Fri)

I also felt HERE that this issue is hardware related. but metz guy still says that firmware will fix it and he will send me this summer.

canoflan · 27th of July 2007 (Fri)

You know, on second thought, I am not going to sell mine, but keep it as my on camera, or at least off camera with the TTL cord from canon and use the 580 as the PW triggered flash. I am going to check out Michael Bass about getting an extended TTL cord (at least 10ft. worth).

Pat

roman_t · 27th of July 2007 (Fri)

generally i dont care if metz wouldnt fix it with 58th. there're cheap flashes on market you can trigger remotely.

bieber · 27th of July 2007 (Fri)

Yeah, I really don't like the idea of hassling to get dedicated units working remotely non-dedicated. Once I've got me another old Nikon speedlight, I thoroughly intend to keep my 580EX around solely for on-camera use.

canoflan · 30th of July 2007 (Mon)

Update: I heard from the Metz support in Germany and the story is different now. It is a firmware issue and here is the skinny right from them:

From support...
Many thanks for your e-mail inquire. A new software dedicated to a 58 AF-1 C (it must be a Canon version) is in planning allowing to use them with a pocket wizzard. Also, a download of this software needs a special up-date of your home page which is stilll not provided as well. Both, this new 58 software as well as our up-dated home page will be available round about September. Unfortunately, an exact date of availibility is still not provided. But, I will store your e-mail to inform you as soon as we have a solution.

best regards

Lutz Goeschel
Technical support

I guess we will see.
Pat

Reefbone · 30th of July 2007 (Mon)

Achtung! - Das Flash!

27th of July 2007 (Fri)	#1
canoflan User is banned from forums Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas, US Posts: 1,059 IMAGE EDITING OK	Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering (update Just heard from Bogen Imaging and here is the quote: Greetings, Thanks for the inquiry regarding the Metz 58 AF-1. If you own a Canon version of the flash, it is unable to fire from a Pocket Wizard and there is no firmware update coming that will allow this to happen. It is a hardware issue, not a firmware issue. If you own the Nikon version of the 58 AF-1, you can use it with a Pocket Wizard right now. It requires a PC to Hot Shoe Adapter (Kalt makes one found at most photo dealers) & a minipohone male to PC Female adapter (sold by Pocket Wizard - cat # 80-4-605). Regards, and thanks for choosing Metz. There you have it. I am going to sell mine and get a Nikon version because I really like the secondary reflector. Pat Last edited by canoflan : 30th of July 2007 (Mon) at 08:39.

27th of July 2007 (Fri)	#2
farrukh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lahore, Pakistan Posts: 1,969	Re: Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering I also felt HERE that this issue is hardware related. but metz guy still says that firmware will fix it and he will send me this summer. __________________ 5D Mark II + 40D \| Lenses: Sigma 150-500mm BigmOS / Canon 24-105mm F4L IS / Canon 70-200 F4L IS / Canon 85mm 1.8 / Sigma Macro 70mm f/2.8 EX / Sigma 10-20mm EX / Canon 50mm f/1.8 II / Sigma 1.4x APO TC / Kenko 2x PRO300 DG. Lighting: Canon 580EX II + Metz 58 AF-1 + Sunpak 383... Flickr

27th of July 2007 (Fri)	#3
canoflan User is banned from forums Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas, US Posts: 1,059 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering You know, on second thought, I am not going to sell mine, but keep it as my on camera, or at least off camera with the TTL cord from canon and use the 580 as the PW triggered flash. I am going to check out Michael Bass about getting an extended TTL cord (at least 10ft. worth). Pat

27th of July 2007 (Fri)	#4
roman_t Cream of the Crop Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Astana, Kazakhstan Posts: 5,221 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering generally i dont care if metz wouldnt fix it with 58th. there're cheap flashes on market you can trigger remotely.

27th of July 2007 (Fri)	#5
bieber Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 1,992 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering Yeah, I really don't like the idea of hassling to get dedicated units working remotely non-dedicated. Once I've got me another old Nikon speedlight, I thoroughly intend to keep my 580EX around solely for on-camera use. __________________ EOS 20D w/ BG-E2 grip Nifty fifty, EF 28mm f/2.8, EF 70-200mm f/4L USM Speedlights SB-25/SB-26/580EX, Pocket Wizards and such My Gallery

30th of July 2007 (Mon)	#6
canoflan User is banned from forums Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas, US Posts: 1,059 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering Update: I heard from the Metz support in Germany and the story is different now. It is a firmware issue and here is the skinny right from them: From support... Many thanks for your e-mail inquire. A new software dedicated to a 58 AF-1 C (it must be a Canon version) is in planning allowing to use them with a pocket wizzard. Also, a download of this software needs a special up-date of your home page which is stilll not provided as well. Both, this new 58 software as well as our up-dated home page will be available round about September. Unfortunately, an exact date of availibility is still not provided. But, I will store your e-mail to inform you as soon as we have a solution. best regards Lutz Goeschel Technical support I guess we will see. Pat

30th of July 2007 (Mon)	#7
Reefbone Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 929 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Metz 58 - Canon compatible version: no firmware to fix off camera triggering Achtung! - Das Flash! __________________ Rebel XT, EF-S 17-55IS f/2.8, EF-S 17-85IS f/4-5.6, EF 50 f/1.4, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, 580EX, Manfrotto Anchor, I9900 "I may disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for my right to fight you to the death" - Stephen Colbert

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