Flash Tests

josh237 · 25th of October 2007 (Thu)

Well I got my new 580ex II and wanted to test it out alittle bit. So I took a picture of my kid with his cat please let me know what you think. Remember I am still practicing lol. What I would like to know is how is the light as I am just using that flash thanks.

Art Rodriguez · 25th of October 2007 (Thu)

I think you passed the test. It looks good to me. Did you bounce the flash?

Art

metalsaber · 25th of October 2007 (Thu)

The cat looks like it lost about 8 lives. hehe.

canonloader · 25th of October 2007 (Thu)

If you hadn't have let the cat out of bag, I never would have guessed you used flash. I like it.

shooterman · 25th of October 2007 (Thu)

The pic looks great, the cat looks PO'ed.

HighPixel · 25th of October 2007 (Thu)

Nice and even...Looks good!
HP

josh237 · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

wow cool wasn't expecting a good review LOL But thanks and as far as bouncing I thing I put it at a 45 degree angel. Is it always better to bounce it then shooting straight on. as when I did it straight on it seemed like It was a little darker. But I like the flash so far just need to get used to it especially with out a light meter or anything.

If it is not raining out I am taking pics at a football game any suggestions on how I should use the flash with that? thanks

Josh

josh237 · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by shooterman

The pic looks great, the cat looks PO'ed.

Yeah the cat was getting a little PO LOL

Titus213 · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

Picture looks good. And any day you can PO a cat is a good day in my book.

Mario. · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

It personally looks underexposed to me. *shrugs*

josh237 · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario.

It personally looks underexposed to me. *shrugs*

Ok thanks what is the best way to make it better or not as underexposed. as my settings were f-5.6 ISO-100 In manual modem with I think shutter speed at 125 or 200 (sorry forgot)

Mario. · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

Either increase the flash power, increase the FEC, increase the ISO, decrease the f/stop, or decrease the shutter, or a combination of things. It really depends.

For that particular shot, I probably just would have increase ISO personally, because you're using direct flash there and you did a good job of managing hotspots (and the shadows are bearable as well).

josh237 · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario.

Either increase the flash power, increase the FEC, increase the ISO, decrease the f/stop, or decrease the shutter, or a combination of things. It really depends.

For that particular shot, I probably just would have increase ISO personally, because you're using direct flash there and you did a good job of managing hotspots (and the shadows are bearable as well).

ok great so you are thinking that a 200 or 400 ISO would have been better? Should I usually stay with the 200 or 400 range ISO when using direct flash?

Mario. · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

I love to stretch my ISO when using flash. As long as your exposure is fine, noise won't be a problem. There's no one set values to work with, you need to be able to adapt your settings during the shoot.

This little kid I was shooting ISO800. Notice how there's almost no hint of ISO grain:

That was with a single bare 580EX direct flash.

canonloader · 26th of October 2007 (Fri)

The best way to lighten an image is to shoot in RAW in the first place, then edit the white balance and exposure in a RAW editor like CS2's ACR or DPP that came with the camera.

You can change ISO to whatever you want, and if you use Av mode it won't matter, it will still come out the same. Use some exposure compensation.

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metalsaber Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 196 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Flash Tests The cat looks like it lost about 8 lives. hehe. __________________ Metalsaber's Blog Metalsaber's Image Galleries Flickr Gallery Canon Rebel XTi, Canon 17-55IS USM, Canon 70-200 2.8 IS, Canon 100-400L USM, Canon 100 f2.8 Macro, Tokina 12-24, Canon Speedlight 580EX II

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canonloader Cream of the Crop Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind A Camera Posts: 52,850 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Flash Tests If you hadn't have let the cat out of bag, I never would have guessed you used flash. I like it. __________________ Mitch- ____...^.^...____ My Microscope Stuff Gear List, My Flash Gallery, My You Tube, Ride My Bi-Sickle War is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

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shooterman village idiot, actually a genius! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 1,269	Re: Flash Tests The pic looks great, the cat looks PO'ed. __________________ Randy ModelMayhem

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josh237 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 122	Re: Flash Tests wow cool wasn't expecting a good review LOL But thanks and as far as bouncing I thing I put it at a 45 degree angel. Is it always better to bounce it then shooting straight on. as when I did it straight on it seemed like It was a little darker. But I like the flash so far just need to get used to it especially with out a light meter or anything. If it is not raining out I am taking pics at a football game any suggestions on how I should use the flash with that? thanks Josh __________________ Canon 60D-Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 II EX DG APO Macro- Canon EFS 18-55mm 580EX II Speedlite- 2-AlienBee 1600 w/Umbrella

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Titus213 Cream of the Crop Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Camas, WA USA Posts: 18,710 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Flash Tests Picture looks good. And any day you can PO a cat is a good day in my book. __________________ Dave Perspiring photographer. Visit NorwoodPhotos.com

26th of October 2007 (Fri)	#10
Mario. Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lone Tree, Colorado Posts: 624	Re: Flash Tests It personally looks underexposed to me. shrugs __________________ Mario M. \| Black Macbook 2.4/ 4GB \| 40D \| 350D\| 17-40 f/4L \| 70-200 f/4L \| 580EX \| 430EX

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Mario. Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lone Tree, Colorado Posts: 624	Re: Flash Tests Either increase the flash power, increase the FEC, increase the ISO, decrease the f/stop, or decrease the shutter, or a combination of things. It really depends. For that particular shot, I probably just would have increase ISO personally, because you're using direct flash there and you did a good job of managing hotspots (and the shadows are bearable as well). __________________ Mario M. \| Black Macbook 2.4/ 4GB \| 40D \| 350D\| 17-40 f/4L \| 70-200 f/4L \| 580EX \| 430EX

26th of October 2007 (Fri)	#14
Mario. Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lone Tree, Colorado Posts: 624	Re: Flash Tests I love to stretch my ISO when using flash. As long as your exposure is fine, noise won't be a problem. There's no one set values to work with, you need to be able to adapt your settings during the shoot. This little kid I was shooting ISO800. Notice how there's almost no hint of ISO grain: That was with a single bare 580EX direct flash. __________________ Mario M. \| Black Macbook 2.4/ 4GB \| 40D \| 350D\| 17-40 f/4L \| 70-200 f/4L \| 580EX \| 430EX

26th of October 2007 (Fri)	#15
canonloader Cream of the Crop Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind A Camera Posts: 52,850 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Flash Tests The best way to lighten an image is to shoot in RAW in the first place, then edit the white balance and exposure in a RAW editor like CS2's ACR or DPP that came with the camera. You can change ISO to whatever you want, and if you use Av mode it won't matter, it will still come out the same. Use some exposure compensation. __________________ Mitch- ____...^.^...____ My Microscope Stuff Gear List, My Flash Gallery, My You Tube, Ride My Bi-Sickle War is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

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