Your Best 3 Aviaton Shots - Page 5

tofuboy · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

wow, some great shots. here's 3 I took last summer.

adrenalnjunky · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

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Originally Posted by tofuboy

Ok - that's at least the 2nd shot of Fat Albert where the props seem to have some sort of time-lapsed blur coming off the tips, but the stop-motion on the blades themselves and fuselage is too sharp for it to have been a long shutter exposure. What is causing that - cause it looks cool as heck. It it just a sweet-spot in the shutter speed that allows both?

EOSAddict · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Chris, it's the 'wingtip vortex' from the prop blades.. cool eh?

adrenalnjunky · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Sweet - so it requires the right atmospheric and physical conditions for it to happen?

spectre · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

condensation...you see it more when the props are under heavy torque and the humidity is high....

If you notice, the props are at a high angle....

chrismj · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

First 2 are from the Overberg air show. They are allowed to fire weapons as Overberg airforce base is a testing range.

Rooivalk attack helicopter firing 2 rockets

Cheetah C firing air-to-air missile (heavily cropped)

Two firefighting helicopters water-bombing on Table Mounting in Janaury 2006

Chris

45R · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Multiple layered shots of a Warthog rolling

Blue Angels

Legacy Flight

JWright · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrismj

First 2 are from the Overberg air show. They are allowed to fire weapons as Overberg airforce base is a testing range.

Rooivalk attack helicopter firing 2 rockets

Chris

How cool!

Unfortunately, military air shows in the US all take place at bases that are in the middle of built-up residential areas. The pilots that are based here at Miramar have to go all the way to El Centro or Fallon, NV to be able to do live weapons firing. The US military would never hold a show at one of these remote firing ranges because nobody would come (too far away) and there'd be major security problems.

spectre · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Eglin AFB is right on the edge of a huge range. You can feel the 105MMs hitting the ground from miles away. I am surprised they have not opened that range up to the public for a viewing of a live fire exercise. I am sure the protesters would have a field day with that huh

FatAlbert · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Legacy Flight

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I love the Bearcat, one of my favourite Piston engine aircraft. Nice focus on it, but to my eye the F-18 is slightly soft, (shallow DOF). If this was intentional then I apologise, but otherwise it spoils the photo for me.

FlyingPhotog · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

I probably have the physics wrong but:

The Bug is flying an arc around the outside of the Bearcat's turn radius and therefore has to fly slightly faster to hold station...

So, if this was shot at about 1/125 or so (maybe even a little slower judging by the prop blur...) and you're panning to match the speed of the Bearcat, you aren't panning as fast as the Hornet is flying.

(Ok, so it makes sense in my brain...)

FatAlbert · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

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Originally Posted by FlyingPhotog

I probably have the physics wrong but:

The Bug is flying an arc around the outside of the Bearcat's turn radius and therefore has to fly slightly faster to hold station...

So, if this was shot at about 1/125 or so (maybe even a little slower judging by the prop blur...) and you're panning to match the speed of the Bearcat, you aren't panning as fast as the Hornet is flying.

(Ok, so it makes sense in my brain...)

But with most of the Heritage Flight shots I have seen on this and other forums the FJ matches the speed of the slower, piston powered ac, and therefore is in formation with it. To my (simple) mind they should both be in focus - unless, as you say the FJ is moving faster relative to the ac on the inside. In whch case the idea of 2 ac (with different cruise speeds) in formation doesn't really work. Especially as the Bearcat is still one of the fastest piston engined aircraft ever made.
Confused

?

As an aside, what a waste of a back seat -the F-18 is a 2 seater with only one filled!!!!!!!!!!!!

45R · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

I had two things going against me on that particular shot. Distance of the Bug to the Cat and the speed. This is another photos of the two zoomed out a little.

FatAlbert · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45R

I had two things going against me on that particular shot. Distance of the Bug to the Cat and the speed. This is another photos of the two zoomed out a little.

Nice sharp shot. It looks like the light was fading too, judging by the nav light on the F-18

Rick Anderson · 14th of November 2007 (Wed)

I've only been to one air show and came unprepared but ...

14th of November 2007 (Wed)	#61
tofuboy Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Maple Valley, WA Posts: 652 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots wow, some great shots. here's 3 I took last summer. __________________ -Matt Seattle Photography - Nature\|Portrait\|Event 'The negative is comparable to the composer’s score and the print to its performance.' - Ansel Adams

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EOSAddict Book Committee Immortal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Preston, Lancashire, England Posts: 6,063 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots Chris, it's the 'wingtip vortex' from the prop blades.. cool eh? __________________ Al My Gear, My Website: www.e-ScapePhotography.co.uk

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adrenalnjunky Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Monroe, Louisiana Posts: 123 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots Sweet - so it requires the right atmospheric and physical conditions for it to happen? __________________ CHRIS ____ Gear - Rebel XT, 18-55(kit), Sigma 24-70 f/2.8, Canon 50mm f/1.8 "Nifty Fifty" My flickr

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spectre Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 825 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots condensation...you see it more when the props are under heavy torque and the humidity is high.... If you notice, the props are at a high angle.... __________________ Todd M. Allen TacAir Photography "you've never lived, until you've almost died. For those who fight for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know" My Gear

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chrismj Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 1 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots First 2 are from the Overberg air show. They are allowed to fire weapons as Overberg airforce base is a testing range. Rooivalk attack helicopter firing 2 rockets Cheetah C firing air-to-air missile (heavily cropped) Two firefighting helicopters water-bombing on Table Mounting in Janaury 2006 Chris

14th of November 2007 (Wed)	#67
45R Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 362	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots Multiple layered shots of a Warthog rolling Blue Angels Legacy Flight __________________ Canon 7D, Canon 30D, Canon 580EX,28-135mm IS USM 50mm F1.8,15mm F2.8,18-55mm Kit lens 17-40L,70-200LF2.8 IS, 2X TC

14th of November 2007 (Wed)	#69
spectre Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 825 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots Eglin AFB is right on the edge of a huge range. You can feel the 105MMs hitting the ground from miles away. I am surprised they have not opened that range up to the public for a viewing of a live fire exercise. I am sure the protesters would have a field day with that huh __________________ Todd M. Allen TacAir Photography "you've never lived, until you've almost died. For those who fight for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know" My Gear

14th of November 2007 (Wed)	#70
FatAlbert Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Finally back in the UK - Dammit! :-( Posts: 805 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots Legacy Flight [/quote] I love the Bearcat, one of my favourite Piston engine aircraft. Nice focus on it, but to my eye the F-18 is slightly soft, (shallow DOF). If this was intentional then I apologise, but otherwise it spoils the photo for me. __________________ FatAlbert

14th of November 2007 (Wed)	#71
FlyingPhotog Cream of the "Prop" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft Posts: 57,300	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots I probably have the physics wrong but: The Bug is flying an arc around the outside of the Bearcat's turn radius and therefore has to fly slightly faster to hold station... So, if this was shot at about 1/125 or so (maybe even a little slower judging by the prop blur...) and you're panning to match the speed of the Bearcat, you aren't panning as fast as the Hornet is flying. (Ok, so it makes sense in my brain...) __________________ Jay Crosswind Images *Facebook Fan Page* "If you aren't getting extraordinary images from today's dSLRs, regardless of brand, it's not the camera!" - Bill Fortney, Nikon Corp.

14th of November 2007 (Wed)	#73
45R Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 362	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots I had two things going against me on that particular shot. Distance of the Bug to the Cat and the speed. This is another photos of the two zoomed out a little. __________________ Canon 7D, Canon 30D, Canon 580EX,28-135mm IS USM 50mm F1.8,15mm F2.8,18-55mm Kit lens 17-40L,70-200LF2.8 IS, 2X TC

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Rick Anderson Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Napa, CA Posts: 533 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Your Best 3 Avaiton Shots I've only been to one air show and came unprepared but ...

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