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Nov 23, 2007 11:29 |  #1

I've been eagre to get a shot of the moon for a couple of weeks now, but either the weather was overcast, or the moon wasn't in view. So, today's been perfect, a crisp clear, Autumn sky.

40D, 100-400mm @ 400mm, ISO 100, f/5.6, 1/320

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Some contrast work and sharpening, plus cropping in Lightroom, and resized in PSE 5.
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Nov 23, 2007 11:36 |  #2

And you got a crisp clear shot of the Moon. Well done.


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Nov 23, 2007 21:07 |  #3

That's a great photo! Nice detail and everything :-D

I'm trying to work out how to photograph the moon properly, which I failed at earlier on. I zoomed in as far as I could (200mm) and set the camera (which was on Manual) according to the meter reading. I tried at ISO 100, but it was off the bottom of the scale and I eventually ended up at ISO 800, f/4 and 1/100th second with the meter reading just on the low side of the centre. I got a lovely photo of a bright white dot on a black background with absolutely no detail whatsoever!

What did I do wrong? Should I be reading the meter, then ignoring what it says and deliberately underexposing or something? I've seen some really nice moon shots on here, but mine was a complete failure! :lol:

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Nov 23, 2007 21:54 |  #4

Yeah you need to underexpose it heavily. Trial and error works rather well, of course!


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Nov 23, 2007 22:38 as a reply to lowcrust's post |  #5

This is how i took this photo. I used Live View, and manually focused on the Moon, set the ISO to 100, the Moon was getting lots of light reflection from the Sun and was very luminescent, hence the low ISO setting. I used AV mode set at f/5.6, used Timer Drive mode @ 2secs, and took a few shots in this manner with the camera mounted on a tripod.

In your case, it maybe asking a bit much of your 200mm lens, to obtain pics such as this, eg, here's the original from which the one above is a crop:

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Nov 23, 2007 22:48 as a reply to painter24's post |  #6

Did you sharpen your pic at all? Great shot too...

As for exposure on the moon, it's redirecting sun light so if you use proper exposure it'll be blown out. Always underexpose to bring out the detail




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Nov 23, 2007 22:49 |  #7

Thanks very much for the details Painter24 :-D I'll have another go tomorrow night. I realize I'm a bit limited with focal length, but I thought I might get something half-decent by cropping. If I got something 1/3 of the diameter of your final image I'd be happy.

Did you take numerous shots because of the changing light conditions, so that you had a choice, or did you combine the shots at the post processing stage?

Lowcrust, I've got the error side of things to a very high standard. Next I'll be working on the trial bit. :lol:

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Nov 23, 2007 22:51 as a reply to mdrtoys's post |  #8

Oh, wait till you get a shadowed mooon. There's nothing cooler than getting a nice shadow showing the curvature of the moon.

Also, invest in teleconverters...my moon shots are always 1.4X and 2X stacked on a 100-400. Have to wait for ever to keep from any camera shake but it's worth it.




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Nov 23, 2007 22:53 |  #9

Thanks Mdrtoys. The exposure thing is one important thing I've learned tonight! :-D I've got a 1.4 teleconverter on my wish list!

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Nov 23, 2007 23:11 |  #10

mdrtoys wrote in post #4373919external link
Did you sharpen your pic at all? Great shot too...

As for exposure on the moon, it's redirecting sun light so if you use proper exposure it'll be blown out. Always underexpose to bring out the detail

Hi mdrtoys,

yes, there's sharpening on the crop for sure, done in Lighroom (shot as RAW), along with some contrast work due to the Moon being bathed in sunlight from the other side of the world, and that's it really. I used spot metering from the brightest spot of the Moon


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Nov 23, 2007 23:19 |  #11

The moon at my house tonight, Puntarenas, CR. A little bit different perspective. 30D with 70-200L IS. Not as close as a 400!

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Nov 23, 2007 23:28 |  #12

Last full moon from Granada, Nicaragua. Same lens and camera (30D with 70-200L IS)

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Nov 24, 2007 11:31 |  #13

Nice shot Patrick. I've just got my 70-200mm L, so it looks as if I'm in with a chance of getting something half decent!

Mike

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Nov 24, 2007 11:36 |  #14

painter24 wrote in post #4373883external link
This is how i took this photo. I used Live View, and manually focused on the Moon, set the ISO to 100, the Moon was getting lots of light reflection from the Sun and was very luminescent, hence the low ISO setting. I used AV mode set at f/5.6, used Timer Drive mode @ 2secs, and took a few shots in this manner with the camera mounted on a tripod.

Just a quick question. If you have it set to Av at ISO 100, how do you stop the camera trying to set a really long exposure time, rather than the 1/320th that you used?

I haven't used Av yet, so I might be getting confused, but I thought that Av prioritized the aperture and let the camera set the shutter speed. In my case I presume I would have ended up with a really long shutter speed because the meter forced me up to ISO 800 and 1/100th before I learned here that you have to underexpose!

Mike

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Nov 24, 2007 13:55 as a reply to Mike-DT6's post |  #15

Stunning photo, makes me want to try it one day.




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