help with color management please

kevindar · 9th of December 2007 (Sun)

I am utterly confused.
I shoot in srgb space. My Monitor is calibrated using spider express. I have assigned the spider express color profile to the monitor. The colors in lightoom and photoshop now look different from picasa, and irfan view. I can make photoshop match the colors of picasa, by asking it to ignore the imbeded profile. I dont even know how to do that in lightroom. However, when I upload to web, I want the images to look the same as they do as I see them on my monitor. Which program is displaying the correct color? how can I resolve this? thank you.

tzalman · 9th of December 2007 (Sun)

PS and LR are displaying the right colors, because they are color managed. When you tell PS to ignore the embedded profile you are turning off the color management making PS like Picasa and Irfanview and Internet Explorer and Firefox. They do not show the real colors. Color management is important for printing and for images transferred to another computer with a profiled monitor and a color managed program. However, the vast majority of people who see what you have posted to the web will see them with IE or FF and an unprofiled monitor. It is impossible to know exactly what they will see. In all liklihood it will be slightly different from what you see. The best you can do is try to keep the colors in the right ballpark by being sure your image is in sRGB space since that is the standard that monitor makers are supposed to aim for.

tim · 9th of December 2007 (Sun)

Make sure the only place the monitor profile is used is within windows, not within photoshop. Read the color management sticky at the top of this forum.

kevindar · 10th of December 2007 (Mon)

thanks everyone. I have read the sticky at the top. the irony is I have the same color management on my laptop, but no difference in color between lightroom and irfan view.

tzalman · 10th of December 2007 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevindar

thanks everyone. I have read the sticky at the top. the irony is I have the same color management on my laptop, but no difference in color between lightroom and irfan view.

That means that your table-top monitor is, even after calibration, well off from sRGB while the laptop is close to it. Usually it's the other way around.

amcarter · 28th of June 2008 (Sat)

Hi, I am having a similar issue with some photographs I took at a wedding. Where is the Sticky? I don't see it. Thanks

Az2Africa · 28th of June 2008 (Sat)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=296149

9th of December 2007 (Sun)	#1
kevindar Goldmember Join Date: May 2007 Location: california Posts: 4,721 IMAGE EDITING OK	help with color management please I am utterly confused. I shoot in srgb space. My Monitor is calibrated using spider express. I have assigned the spider express color profile to the monitor. The colors in lightoom and photoshop now look different from picasa, and irfan view. I can make photoshop match the colors of picasa, by asking it to ignore the imbeded profile. I dont even know how to do that in lightroom. However, when I upload to web, I want the images to look the same as they do as I see them on my monitor. Which program is displaying the correct color? how can I resolve this? thank you. __________________ My Flickr Gear List

9th of December 2007 (Sun)	#2
tzalman Fatal attraction. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel Posts: 10,818 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: help with color management please PS and LR are displaying the right colors, because they are color managed. When you tell PS to ignore the embedded profile you are turning off the color management making PS like Picasa and Irfanview and Internet Explorer and Firefox. They do not show the real colors. Color management is important for printing and for images transferred to another computer with a profiled monitor and a color managed program. However, the vast majority of people who see what you have posted to the web will see them with IE or FF and an unprofiled monitor. It is impossible to know exactly what they will see. In all liklihood it will be slightly different from what you see. The best you can do is try to keep the colors in the right ballpark by being sure your image is in sRGB space since that is the standard that monitor makers are supposed to aim for. __________________ Elie / אלי "If you presume to love something, you must love the process of it much more than you love the finished product." John Irving, 5/2012. "In theory there is no difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is." Yogi Berra Site

9th of December 2007 (Sun)	#3
tim Light Bringer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 47,927 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: help with color management please Make sure the only place the monitor profile is used is within windows, not within photoshop. Read the color management sticky at the top of this forum. __________________ NZIPP Qualified Professional wedding photographer. Camera and Lens Reviews ~ Wellington Wedding Photographer Wellington Wedding Photographer (site2) ~ Wellington Wedding Photographer (site3) Read all my FAQs (wedding, printing, lighting, books, etc)

10th of December 2007 (Mon)	#4
kevindar Goldmember Join Date: May 2007 Location: california Posts: 4,721 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: help with color management please thanks everyone. I have read the sticky at the top. the irony is I have the same color management on my laptop, but no difference in color between lightroom and irfan view. __________________ My Flickr Gear List

28th of June 2008 (Sat)	#6
amcarter Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	Re: help with color management please Hi, I am having a similar issue with some photographs I took at a wedding. Where is the Sticky? I don't see it. Thanks

28th of June 2008 (Sat)	#7
Az2Africa Goldmember Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Scottsdale, Arizona USA Posts: 3,476 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: help with color management please http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=296149 __________________ "If you're not living on the edge. You're taking up too much room !" My Gear Arizona's POTN Flickr Gallery

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