HELP Invoicing Client For RAW File Processing & JPG File

GHO64 · 16th of September 2004 (Thu)

HELP Invoicing Client For RAW File Processing & JPG File Corrections

When I shoot a Film Job, I have no problem billing the client separately for Purchasing & Processing The Film. However, when I shoot Digital, the client seems to think that Processing and correcting the JPF Files should be included in my day rate.

Any Suggestions on how to write the invoice or Creative Billing that makes the digital processing a separate charge would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

gho64

slin100 · 16th of September 2004 (Thu)

I've seen this discussed in a few other forums. Here's one article I came across.

You also might want to check out the PRO digital corner forum over at Fred Miranda's site and the numerous pro-oriented (e.g. Wedding, Sports, Event and Commercial/Advertising and Industrial) forums at Rob Galbraith's site. Doing a search for "Day Rate" might be a good starting point.

IndyJeff · 16th of September 2004 (Thu)

Explain that as film cost and processing plus printing was always added on to the day rates, digital processing is just an added cost that is passed on. I had one client who didn't seem to think that this was all that much. When I told them I was on site for 3 1/2 hours but spent 3 additional hours processing and editting he said he didn't realize that much time was involved. I only charge $40 per hour on the processing so it wasn't that much extra.

evilenglishman · 16th of September 2004 (Thu)

it depends on if they actually need any image processing from you.
My clients do any image processing themselves before publishing.
Most magazines/newspapers etc will do any processing themselves.

robertwgross · 16th of September 2004 (Thu)

It can be tough to quantify post processing time.

First of all, there are rough computer tasks such as RAW to TIF conversion. Those take time on the computer, but it is only computer time and not human time. You load a file list and let it rip. You come back later after coffee and see if it is done yet.

Then there are creative human tasks, perhaps in Photoshop. That takes a trained eye. Dodge a little here. Burn a little there. Creative time should be expensive.

---Bob Gross---

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GHO64 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 29	HELP Invoicing Client For RAW File Processing & JPG File HELP Invoicing Client For RAW File Processing & JPG File Corrections When I shoot a Film Job, I have no problem billing the client separately for Purchasing & Processing The Film. However, when I shoot Digital, the client seems to think that Processing and correcting the JPF Files should be included in my day rate. Any Suggestions on how to write the invoice or Creative Billing that makes the digital processing a separate charge would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. gho64

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slin100 Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 977	I've seen this discussed in a few other forums. Here's one article I came across. You also might want to check out the PRO digital corner forum over at Fred Miranda's site and the numerous pro-oriented (e.g. Wedding, Sports, Event and Commercial/Advertising and Industrial) forums at Rob Galbraith's site. Doing a search for "Day Rate" might be a good starting point. __________________ Steven 7D, 10D, 17-40/4L, 50/1.8 Mk I, 85/1.8, Tamron 28-75/2.8, 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS, 80-200/2.8L, 550EX, Pocket Wizard

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IndyJeff Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,891	Explain that as film cost and processing plus printing was always added on to the day rates, digital processing is just an added cost that is passed on. I had one client who didn't seem to think that this was all that much. When I told them I was on site for 3 1/2 hours but spent 3 additional hours processing and editting he said he didn't realize that much time was involved. I only charge $40 per hour on the processing so it wasn't that much extra.

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evilenglishman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,184	it depends on if they actually need any image processing from you. My clients do any image processing themselves before publishing. Most magazines/newspapers etc will do any processing themselves.

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robertwgross Cream of the Crop Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,462	It can be tough to quantify post processing time. First of all, there are rough computer tasks such as RAW to TIF conversion. Those take time on the computer, but it is only computer time and not human time. You load a file list and let it rip. You come back later after coffee and see if it is done yet. Then there are creative human tasks, perhaps in Photoshop. That takes a trained eye. Dodge a little here. Burn a little there. Creative time should be expensive. ---Bob Gross---