Why I love RAW - '53 Ford Sunliner (Fixed)

PhotosGuy · 25th of September 2004 (Sat)

Rag-top, a pearl paint job, bubble skirts, lakes pipes, Packard tail lights, frenched headlights... what more could a kid in the '50s want?

I almost missed this one. The tripod was already in the trunk when I saw it, so I grabbed a couple quick shots at minimum settings before he drove away. Being a film guy for years, I totally forgot that I could have bumped up the ISO! I also forgot to take the bright background into consideration. The car was the subject, not the sunset, right? So here's the results.

300D, Kit lens, ISO 200, RAW, Manual everything.
1/80 sec, f-4.5, FL= 18mm.

This is a jpeg from the umprocessed RAW file. Nice, huh?

These are the results after processing RAW +2.0 exposure into tiffs, & the usual PS work.

Conk · 25th of September 2004 (Sat)

Great job Frank.

PhotosGuy · 26th of September 2004 (Sun)

Thanks, Conk. This post seems to be "going down the tubes" fast. Maybe I should have added (topless) to the title?

PhotosGuy · 27th of September 2004 (Mon)

Photobucket was down all weekend. Apologies to those who waited for this to load.

wolverinesr1 · 27th of September 2004 (Mon)

wow is all i can say. that is a great testament to use raw. which i have slowly come around to using, because of pics like this. i'm even saving the raw files to maybe visit a year later to see if i can do even better processing. now if i could only get my PS skills up there i would be happy.
great job Frank.
jeff

marie · 27th of September 2004 (Mon)

love the first shot especially

great atmosphere in it

Ballen Photo · 27th of September 2004 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by marie

love the first shot especially

great atmosphere in it

Marie hit it right on the nail head.

The PS work is great too.

-Bruce

drisley · 27th of September 2004 (Mon)

I really like shot #2.
Excellent cropping and composition. It almost looks 3D.

KevinO · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

I not normally a 'still life' person, but these are just great shots.

Mooneyes · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

Very classy shots, think I may start experimenting with raw after seeing these...

Ikinaa · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhotosGuy

This is a jpeg from the umprocessed RAW file. Nice, huh?

These are the results after processing RAW +2.0 exposure into tiffs, & the usual PS work.

I didn't know that you could rotate the car when shooting RAW . Or do you have this blade-runner aka CSI-plugin for PS?

Great job...

how long does it take to isolate the car from the background.
I've never tried doing it because of the long (my guess) time needed

PhotosGuy · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

Quote:

how long does it take to isolate the car from the background.

The more you do it, the faster it is.
To select it & hide the background: Selecting areas in PS.
1. 5 minutes for the (dark) bottom of the car:
Add an adjustment layer (Levels) & kick up the brightness so I can see what I'm doing. Make the selection & save it, then turn off the adjustment layer. Then add the rest of the car to the selection & save it = another 5 minutes.
2. Erase or hide the background. see the bottom link.
3. Recall the selection, invert it, & expand it 1-2 pixels. Then erase any halo like the one you see at the top of the fender at the right in the first pic. (I didn't do that here before I posted the pic - I usually wait 'till I see what it looks like against whatever background I end up using.) Maybe another 5 minutes for that.
So, about 15 minutes for the whole process + time wasted if I see something interesting on the TV while I'm doing this.

EDIT: Using a Layer Mask to hide part of an image. Advantage is that the mask is reversible, where the effect of an eraser is not.
Need to remove a background from something?

Ikinaa · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhotosGuy

Quote:

how long does it take to isolate the car from the background.

The more you do it, the faster it is.
To select it & erase the background: (See my 'selection' tutorial in Post Processing)
1. 5 minutes for the (dark) bottom of the car:
Add an adjustment layer (Levels) & kick up the brightness so I can see what I'm doing. Make the selection & save it, then turn off the adjustment layer. Then add the rest of the car to the selection & save it = another 5 minutes.
2. Erase the background.
3. Recall the selection, invert it, & expand it 1-2 pixels. Then erase any halo like the one you see at the top of the fender at the right in the first pic. (I didn't do that here before I posted the pic - I usually wait 'till I see what it looks like against whatever background I end up using.) Maybe another 5 minutes for that.
So, about 15 minutes for the whole process + time wasted if I see something interesting on the TV while I'm doing this.

Seems easy

I guess it's all about training... like 1st time 3 hours, second time 2hours 59 minutes... etc 100th time 15 minutes

I'll give it a try, just read your tutorial too... very interesting...

4walls · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

Wow, great work as always Frank.

PhotosGuy · 28th of September 2004 (Tue)

Quote:

... etc 100th time 15 minutes

That's it! Thanks, 4walls.

25th of September 2004 (Sat)	#1
PhotosGuy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: S. E. Michigan Posts: 44,025	Why I love RAW - '53 Ford Sunliner (Fixed) Rag-top, a pearl paint job, bubble skirts, lakes pipes, Packard tail lights, frenched headlights... what more could a kid in the '50s want? I almost missed this one. The tripod was already in the trunk when I saw it, so I grabbed a couple quick shots at minimum settings before he drove away. Being a film guy for years, I totally forgot that I could have bumped up the ISO! I also forgot to take the bright background into consideration. The car was the subject, not the sunset, right? So here's the results. 300D, Kit lens, ISO 200, RAW, Manual everything. 1/80 sec, f-4.5, FL= 18mm. This is a jpeg from the umprocessed RAW file. Nice, huh? These are the results after processing RAW +2.0 exposure into tiffs, & the usual PS work. __________________ FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything... Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers. www.FrankCizek.com Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET! Have you thought about making your own book? / The new default version of FireFox is color managed! Last edited by PhotosGuy : 2nd of April 2006 (Sun) at 23:56.

26th of September 2004 (Sun)	#3
PhotosGuy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: S. E. Michigan Posts: 44,025	Thanks, Conk. This post seems to be "going down the tubes" fast. Maybe I should have added (topless) to the title? __________________ FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything... Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers. www.FrankCizek.com Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET! Have you thought about making your own book? / The new default version of FireFox is color managed!

27th of September 2004 (Mon)	#4
PhotosGuy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: S. E. Michigan Posts: 44,025	Apologies Photobucket was down all weekend. Apologies to those who waited for this to load. __________________ FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything... Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers. www.FrankCizek.com Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET! Have you thought about making your own book? / The new default version of FireFox is color managed!

27th of September 2004 (Mon)	#5
wolverinesr1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: S.E. Michigan Posts: 1,530 IMAGE EDITING OK	wow is all i can say. that is a great testament to use raw. which i have slowly come around to using, because of pics like this. i'm even saving the raw files to maybe visit a year later to see if i can do even better processing. now if i could only get my PS skills up there i would be happy. great job Frank. jeff __________________ Jeff Canon 30 D with Kit Lens 24-70 2.8 L 70-200 F4 L Canon EF 50mm 1.8 II Kenko 1.4 TC Canon Speedlite 580 EX

27th of September 2004 (Mon)	#6
marie Cream of the Crop Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: republic of ireland Posts: 21,021	love the first shot especially great atmosphere in it __________________ Regards,Marie Pro1/ EOS 40D /24-105/70-300/10-22/60mm

25th of September 2004 (Sat)	#2
Conk Goldmember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cloverdale B.C. Posts: 3,461	Great job Frank. __________________ Cloverdale Photography Photos More Photos

27th of September 2004 (Mon)	#8
drisley "What a Tool I am" Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8,267	I really like shot #2. Excellent cropping and composition. It almost looks 3D. __________________ *Click here for Pixmantra's FlexNR-Professional Noise Reduction for EOS 1D3*

28th of September 2004 (Tue)	#9
KevinO Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 237	I not normally a 'still life' person, but these are just great shots.

28th of September 2004 (Tue)	#10
Mooneyes Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 56	Very classy shots, think I may start experimenting with raw after seeing these...

28th of September 2004 (Tue)	#14
4walls Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Abbotsford Posts: 1,336	Wow, great work as always Frank. __________________ Canon 20D, EF 24-70 F/2.8L "The Brick", Sigma 70-200 F/2.8, 430EX, Lowepro Slingshot 100AW, BG-E2 grip

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