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Canon 40D vs Nikon D300

 
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Apr 05, 2008 22:23 |  #1

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Apr 05, 2008 22:24 |  #2

The d300 is a far better camera, but its $500 more so its not really a fair comparison.



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Apr 06, 2008 00:02 |  #3

I take issue with only one fact:

1. The d300 only shoots 5 frames per second. It can achieve 8 frames per seconds when the high speed battery grip is attached (at an additional cost). Neither of these figures take into account shooting in 14 bit which makes the camera drastically slower.

2.The Canon 40D is capable of shooting at 6.5 frames per second out of the box. No assembly required.

Other than that, both cameras are absolutely great, and I almost considered getting a D300. (I was actually very close)


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Apr 06, 2008 00:06 as a reply to BEEEsH's post |  #4

my buddy got a D300 and I have never used a 40D but had a 30D and I would take a 40D anyday of the week. The button layout is down right awful I think. Feels like you need a 3rd hand to set some of the options. The AF to me doesnt seem like its something that is mind blowing and IQ with the high ISO has been shown over and over the 40D holds details much better then the D300


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Apr 06, 2008 00:10 as a reply to taylorwilsdon's post |  #5

Personally I do think it is a better camera all the way around. To compare it to the 5d is not a fair comparison though, the 300 is better for speed AF and a number of other features but picture quaility, I think the 5d is better IMHO. But compared to the 40d, there really is no comparison, the 300 is superior in almost every way. In the most important ways, build, quality, AF, flash, feature set. It is more of a professional camera. Now if you are invested in a bunch of Canon lenses, it would not make sense to switch, you just have to wait until Canon catches up and surpasses Nikon. Canon has been in the drivers seat for some time now, they know it and Nikon users knew it. But now the tables have turned. I believe Canon will respond, and I think much faster that Nikon has ever responded to Canons dominance or advantage. IMHO of course.

Also in response to the above, I shoot both Canon and Nikon, IMHO Nikon had Canon beat and for some time in now in the ergonimics and button placemement aspect. But it is subjective. You can learn both and become proficient at both, but Nikon IMHO has always put a much larger emphisis on button placement and it shows. In the past, Canon place more time in the the sensor and picture quality, and it has also shown over the years up until now, where Nikon has FINALLY, caught up and in some areas surpassed Canon.




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Apr 06, 2008 00:14 |  #6

It was a tough decision for me as well, I felt that the 40D was more bang for the buck, I wouldnt have to get the battery grip for extra FPS, and I was already familiar with the canon line and controls.


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Apr 06, 2008 00:19 |  #7

BEEEsH wrote in post #5269066external link
I take issue with only one fact:

1. The d300 only shoots 5 frames per second. It can achieve 8 frames per seconds when the high speed battery grip is attached (at an additional cost). Neither of these figures take into account shooting in 14 bit which makes the camera drastically slower.

2.The Canon 40D is capable of shooting at 6.5 frames per second out of the box. No assembly required.

Other than that, both cameras are absolutely great, and I almost considered getting a D300. (I was actually very close)

Me too, I will give the AF edge to the Nikon....But to read how much (all around) better the D300 is over the 40D is not exactly true. I prefer the 40D IQ, FPS and low NR for high ISO shooting...tried it, wasn't impressed and the price for the body, grip and "premium" battery to get it up to speed is more like $700 more than the 40D and puts it in the 5D range....So, would I rather have a 5D than the D300?....hell yes...Would I rather have a used 1DmkII than the D300? Ditto....Is it a great body...yes, I think if your a Nikon guy it is, would make a great backup for the D3


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Apr 06, 2008 23:33 |  #8

The D300 has a problem that if you press the shutter release halfway down, there is a 1 second lag before focus begins, one it begins it is fast. My buddy got a D300, SB 800, 12-24mm F2.8, 24-70mm F2.8, and 70-200mm F2.8 VR, and it does this with all these lenses.


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Apr 06, 2008 23:47 |  #9

I've read around the net in different nature related forums with D300 users wondering if the new Nikon processor is fast enough for the camera. Seen quite a few battery related issues too with some.



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Apr 06, 2008 23:53 |  #10

The Fox wrote in post #5275440external link
The D300 has a problem that if you press the shutter release halfway down, there is a 1 second lag before focus begins, one it begins it is fast. My buddy got a D300, SB 800, 12-24mm F2.8, 24-70mm F2.8, and 70-200mm F2.8 VR, and it does this with all these lenses.

Then your "buddy" has a broken camera. It happens to Canon and Nikon - he should get it fixed (if he exists). Otherwise, thats just FUD

I can personally attest to that not being the case. The D300 is a better camera then the 40d, but again, the prices are not the same. You can buy a 40d and a nice lens for the same price as the d300 body, and thats going to take better pictures ;)

I get it, this is a Canon forum and I've been historically a Canon shooter. That just means that opinions here are going to be skewed, just as they would be on the nikon side. Nobody can deny that if they were the same price, the D300 would be way better; but they are not.



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Apr 07, 2008 01:10 |  #11

My honest answer:
I will never going to open a thread with 40D vs D300.....
Why?
Because there were 100.000 thread like this and I have expressed my view and so did others and really....it is worth looking at older thread and learn what people think.
In my opinion, this thread adds no values, but this is only what I think....


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Apr 07, 2008 01:31 |  #12

It's a no brainer as far as I can see. Even if you switch it's going to cost you a lot more for Nikon glass and 5 months later Canon releases a new model that kicks Nikon back to #2. If you're already a Nikon user it's a great step up, otherwise why bother even thinking about it. Unless you have the disposable income to play that game.


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Apr 07, 2008 07:16 |  #13

Ferrari_Alex wrote in post #5275811external link
My honest answer:
I will never going to open a thread with 40D vs D300.....
Why?
Because there were 100.000 thread like this and I have expressed my view and so did others and really....it is worth looking at older thread and learn what people think.
In my opinion, this thread adds no values, but this is only what I think....

If your never going to open one then why did you even post in one?


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Apr 07, 2008 07:42 as a reply to 05Xrunner's post |  #14

Lets clear up a couple of mis-quotes here.

The D300 does 6fps out of the box at jpeg or 12 bit raw, granted, it slows a lot at 14 bit raw.
When I can see the difference between 12bit and 14 bit images I'll be concerned about it.

I tried two d300's in jessops and it does not wait for a second before focussing after a half shutter press.

If you are concerned about who's "in the lead" then you are wasting too much time justifying your purchase desicions and not enough time taking pictures.

And please spare us the "I have a friend who...." quotes, they are just childish beyond reason.:rolleyes:

I'd be happy with either of these cameras righ now and yes, if you have invested in glass for either?, it would make no sense to switch brands.
The only time you'd do that was if one system did something that you really could not live ithout.


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Apr 07, 2008 08:05 as a reply to fordmondeo's post |  #15

Always thread of contention vs this and vs that, personally I think the Nikons are getting such good press beacause for years the produced cameras far inferior to other brands and now they have caught up its good for everybody.


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