Bright, Sunny Days

especht · 15th of April 2008 (Tue)

Hello,

How do other's approach taking photos when it is extremely bright and sunny, and you have no other choice but to take photos in the sun (@ high noon)?

I am setting up as part of a ceremony where the coordinators designate where you are going to be. I just checked it out and there is no shade in sight.

Thanks in advance!

Mum2J&M · 15th of April 2008 (Tue)

Well, that sucks. I always try to seek shade and use fill flash to combat any harsh shadows. Good luck.

Mike · 15th of April 2008 (Tue)

I take it you are shooting a wedding or similar? You can try using a bit of flash to fill in the heavy shadows that the sun will cause. Or try speaking with the coordinators to try and get a better spot if you are not happy with it.

Perry Ge · 15th of April 2008 (Tue)

a) Exposure is easy. Sunny 16 as your starting point. Adjust as appropriate.
b) Fill flash or reflectors to fill in harsh shadows.
c) If you can get your hands on a scrim, even better.

Karl C · 15th of April 2008 (Tue)

Maybe a two-stop GND filter to help with the bright sky.

Or any two-stop filter to help cut down on glare and make the light manageable.

Or just don't shoot the event.

Mum2J&M · 16th of April 2008 (Wed)

I guess what I don't understand is why, if someone wants a good photograph, they don't listen to the photographer.

elysium · 16th of April 2008 (Wed)

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Originally Posted by Mum2J&M

I guess what I don't understand is why, if someone wants a good photograph, they don't listen to the photographer.

You forget some people can be ignorant or do not understand the same info as you may.

They may think it does not make a difference because as a photographer, you should have all the tools to make the picture perfect.

Pay all that money for high noon wash out+strong shadow pictures. Worth it? Nope. Will it happen again, you can bet on it.

Karl C · 16th of April 2008 (Wed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysium

You forget some people can be ignorant or do not understand the same info as you may.

They may think it does not make a difference because as a photographer, you should have all the tools to make the picture perfect.

Pay all that money for high noon wash out+strong shadow pictures. Worth it? Nope. Will it happen again, you can bet on it.

My ex has difficulty understanding the logic too. I tell her shooting between 10am and 2pm isn't good and that I avoid it, if possible. Her reply, "Why? I've seen plenty of photos taken during the middle of the day". I stopped trying to explain it - she thinks she's right and I'm wrong. No, she's not a photographer.

One of the many reasons why she's classified as an "ex".

elysium · 16th of April 2008 (Wed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl C

My ex has difficulty understanding the logic too. I tell her shooting between 10am and 2pm isn't good and that I avoid it, if possible. Her reply, "Why? I've seen plenty of photos taken during the middle of the day". I stopped trying to explain it - she thinks she's right and I'm wrong. No, she's not a photographer.

One of the many reasons why she's classified as an "ex".

Sorry ta hear. Yeah im down on camera geeks/nerds/tecchies/enthusiasts down here so I feel lonely.

A girlfriend who is also an enthusiast would be ideal but no waiting around for too long. Its the hardest thing to tell people who are set in their ways. Guess you just comply with their requests and yell "I TOLD YA SO" when it all goes wrong.

majkid · 16th of April 2008 (Wed)

Sunny 16?

beepclick · 16th of April 2008 (Wed)

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Originally Posted by majkid

Sunny 16?

Here is a link to some Sunny 16 info - it was given to me by "PhotosGuy" - a moderator here at POTN>
http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/sunny.html

majkid · 17th of April 2008 (Thu)

Thannks Beepclick. Very intersting.

especht · 17th of April 2008 (Thu)

Great information, I'm going to try to arrive really early to the event to see what additional spaces are available. Individual photos do not worry me as much as the group photos do.

_Dc · 17th of April 2008 (Thu)

Not to jack the thread but if it's sunny outside, does the sunny 16 rule still apply with a CPL filter?

Gipetto · 17th of April 2008 (Thu)

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Originally Posted by _Dc

Not to jack the thread but if it's sunny outside, does the sunny 16 rule still apply with a CPL filter?

Absolutely, you just have to adjust for the light lost by the CPL - typically about 2 stops, but check the documentation for the filter to be sure.

15th of April 2008 (Tue)	#1
especht Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27	Bright, Sunny Days Hello, How do other's approach taking photos when it is extremely bright and sunny, and you have no other choice but to take photos in the sun (@ high noon)? I am setting up as part of a ceremony where the coordinators designate where you are going to be. I just checked it out and there is no shade in sight. Thanks in advance!

15th of April 2008 (Tue)	#2
Mum2J&M Goldmember Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bedford, MA Posts: 3,429 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Bright, Sunny Days Well, that sucks. I always try to seek shade and use fill flash to combat any harsh shadows. Good luck. __________________ Cleo 50D smugmug

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Mike ugly when I'm sober Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sandwich UK...the place, not the food! Posts: 14,913 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Bright, Sunny Days I take it you are shooting a wedding or similar? You can try using a bit of flash to fill in the heavy shadows that the sun will cause. Or try speaking with the coordinators to try and get a better spot if you are not happy with it. __________________ www.mikegreenphotography.co.uk Gear UK South Easterners flickr Blog 5∞px Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ::: A closed mouth gathers no foot.

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Perry Ge Batteries? We don't need no... Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto/Hong Kong Posts: 11,952	Re: Bright, Sunny Days a) Exposure is easy. Sunny 16 as your starting point. Adjust as appropriate. b) Fill flash or reflectors to fill in harsh shadows. c) If you can get your hands on a scrim, even better. __________________ Perry \| flickr \| C&C ALWAYS welcome \| Gear POTN Toronto \| Sharpening sticky \| Perspective sticky [READ THIS]

15th of April 2008 (Tue)	#5
Karl C Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Now: N 39°36' 8.2" W 104°53' 58"; prev N 43°4' 33" W 88°13' 23"; home N 34°7' 0" W 118°16' 18" Posts: 1,932 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Bright, Sunny Days Maybe a two-stop GND filter to help with the bright sky. Or any two-stop filter to help cut down on glare and make the light manageable. Or just don't shoot the event.

16th of April 2008 (Wed)	#6
Mum2J&M Goldmember Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bedford, MA Posts: 3,429 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Bright, Sunny Days I guess what I don't understand is why, if someone wants a good photograph, they don't listen to the photographer. __________________ Cleo 50D smugmug

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majkid Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Essex, UK Posts: 132	Re: Bright, Sunny Days Sunny 16? __________________ Striving to improve [Canon 5DMk3] [Canon EF24-105L IS f/4.0] [Canon EF100mm f/2.8 Macro] [Canon EF85 f1.8][Canon 70-200f2.8L IS[Speedlight 430EX]

17th of April 2008 (Thu)	#12
majkid Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Essex, UK Posts: 132	Re: Bright, Sunny Days Thannks Beepclick. Very intersting. __________________ Striving to improve [Canon 5DMk3] [Canon EF24-105L IS f/4.0] [Canon EF100mm f/2.8 Macro] [Canon EF85 f1.8][Canon 70-200f2.8L IS[Speedlight 430EX]

17th of April 2008 (Thu)	#13
especht Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27	Re: Bright, Sunny Days Great information, I'm going to try to arrive really early to the event to see what additional spaces are available. Individual photos do not worry me as much as the group photos do.

17th of April 2008 (Thu)	#14
_Dc Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 103	Re: Bright, Sunny Days Not to jack the thread but if it's sunny outside, does the sunny 16 rule still apply with a CPL filter?

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