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Old 19th of April 2008 (Sat)   #1
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Default 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

I'm thinking of investing in some top quality glass to replace my kit lens (18-55mm). I'm considering either the 24-70 or 24-105. The latter seems more obvious since it is both cheaper and longer, however I've heard it can be slightly inconsistent at the long end concerning IQ. Would anyone who's had experience with both care to shed some light on the case, just with a few pros and cons of each?

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Old 19th of April 2008 (Sat)   #2
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

Welcome to POTN!

This is THE most debated topic on this forum, search a bit and you will find more information than you could read in a lifetime. Some recent ones to look in:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...-70+vs.+24-105
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http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...-70+vs.+24-105
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http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...-70+vs.+24-105
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http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...-70+vs.+24-105
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...-70+vs.+24-105
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...-70+vs.+24-105


There is a lot of info on these 2, it just gets repeated a lot. So look in some of the threads and most of your questions should be answered. There is not one that is better than the other and both are a compromise over the other, that is what makes this debate so hard.
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Old 19th of April 2008 (Sat)   #3
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

Thank god someone finally asked this question.

Since you own the 18-55, I think the first question you need to ask yourself is if you ever use the range from 18mm to 23mm. Most people find they need that wide range on their main walkabout lens. If that is you, then you should be looking at the better lenses that cover the 17mm to XXmm range like the EF-S 17-55, Tamron 17-50 etc.

If you are one of the people who can live with 24mm and up, then the salient differences are that the 24-70 is 1 stop faster, 35mm shorter and 50% heavier. The biggest IQ issue of the 24-105 is poor corners at 24mm which does not affect a 1.6X body.
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

What do you like to shoot? What types of shooting conditions do you think you'll find yourself most in?

I'd also seriously consider adding the 17-55/2.8 IS to your short list of lenses to get as well.
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

Search ftw:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...m+Vs.+24-105mm

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...m+Vs.+24-105mm

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...m+Vs.+24-105mm

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=304681

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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

Sorry guys, didn't realise quite how debated this topic was
As you say it's down to shooting style and user preferences. Thanks for the links, I'd better start reading.
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Get both as i did to stop my inner debating
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

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Get both as i did to stop my inner debating
that's the best way to do it really.
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

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Get both as i did to stop my inner debating

That is my next step as well. Though I will admit that the 24-70 has yet to be removed from my 20d since I bought it. It has been a great lens. I spent weeks reading other posts here about the two lenses, and it finally came down to visiting my local store where they let me try them both on my camera. Bought it right on the spot. Good luck with your decision!
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I would never chose an f/4 lens over an f/2.8 even if it did have IS. But thats just me.
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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

what do you like to shoot?

I just looked at your Flickr- I'd DEFINITELY go for the 24-70- you have a lot of shallow depth-of-field shots and action shots- the 24-70 is better for those IMHO. I adore my 24-105 and would never trade it for a 24-70/2.8, but I am 90% a landscape photographer and therefore don't need f/2.8, but do need IS.

A possible compromise is to go for the 24-105 AND either a Sigma 30/1.4 EX or a Tamron 17-50/2.8, which will be roughly the same price and weight as a 24-70 on it's own.

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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

TBH there's no real thing I tend to shoot, although the speed and bokeh that the 24-70 offers is probably more my style. As you can see I often shoot wide open, so it looks like the 24-70 is the more obvious choice.

Thanks for taking the time to help me guys.

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Default Re: 24-70mm Vs. 24-105mm

I would say your biggest concern shouldn't be inconsistencies in one particular lens....but rather whether or not you want/need the 2.8 aperture. I know I do. it all depends on your shooting subject and style. shooting low light? wanting to blur out the background? etc.

read the other threads and you'll get the idea. way back when, i bought a 24-105. Eventually swapped it for a 24-70 and it was the best move I ever made.
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I did, now I keep thinking which one I want to get rid of the fund a 24L.
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I kinda hate to bring this up in an "L" thread... but for wayyy cheaper you can get a Sigma 24-60 or 24-70 f/2.8, which have excellent quality at a fraction of the price (24-60 is going for $220 on amazon... THE best value for a f2.8 lens for sure!).

That being said, I'd love to have a 24-105 for my outdoor shooting. I really enjoyed the range of my 17-85 f/4-5.6 IS but wanted better sharper pics.

I can't justify the 17-55 IS being worth $1000 when it's built quality is the same or lower then my Sigma EX lens.


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