G6 vs. D Rebel

[ethan's dad]

I am looking to upgrade the family camera. I have a active two year old son and a very slow point and shoot kodak digital camera. I want grow my photographic abilty as my son develops ie football, baseball. I am also interested in a camera for photos at sporting events ( big Vols fan).
I am considering the G6 and the Rebel I have priced both on line for around 600.00. Any help would be appreciated.

[Andy_T]

Hi Ethansdad,

welcome to the forum!!!

For me ... the answer is pretty simple ... get the DRebel.

Pro's:
- Better image quality
- Possibility to get low light photos due to larger sensor
- More creative options (especially DOF control)
- WAY faster Autofocus (I also have a 2 year old son, believe me )
- Possibilities to upgrade.
- Will keep its value better than the G6

Cons:
- Larger, heavier to lug around
- A bit more expensive initially
- WARNING ... it's the entry drug ... you'll keep adding equipment to it

So ... unless the main advantage of the G6, that it is small and fits into your pocket is very important to you ... get the DRebel. You won't regret it.

One more thing ... before you buy anything, be sure to read up on it in this forum! You'll learn so much about digital photography if you just use one day to look at the interesting threads here and in the 'Digital EOS part' of this forum here.

And when you decide which one to buy ... pick a good shop. There are a lot of online companies that will rip you off ... check www.resellerratings before.

Best regards,
Andy

[Alnath]

Originally Posted by Andythaler

unless the main advantage of the G6, that it is small and fits into your pocket

You must have the biggest pockets known to mankind my friend

The G6 is possibly the best non dSLR camera on the market at its price so either choice will not be a bad one. The dSLR might be the better option technically but the G6 is the winner when it comes to days out with your son, kids are a handful as it is without having a dSLR and its associated equipment to hinder you.

[Andy_T]

I forgot one main advantage of the G6 ... the swivel LCD (because I never use it).

You don't have that on a DSLR, you have to look through the viewfinder, like in the old days.

Alnath ... I actually put the G2 into my ... coat ... pocket
I think the G6 is even a little smaller, right?

Best regards,
Andy

[gtg]

The G6 is definitely a better choice considering ur requirement.

Advantages:
1. Twist and Swivel LCD
2. Small Size
3. Very Good Movie Mode(I dont think it is there in DRebel)
4. No Extra Money on a lotta Lenses.

No offsense intended against the DRebel... It is a very good digital SLR at its price range. But it is not without its limitations when it comes to size , weight and price of lenses.

[Ogrt48]

The G6 isn't small at all, it's not going to fit in any normal pocket.
Sure the Rebel doesn't have a video mode, it's a dslr, but the G6's movie mode isn't that good, it's limited to 3 minutes and then only 30 seconds in the high quality mode.
No extra money on lenses isn't an advantage, you're stuck with that one lens with that camera.

[gtg]

Originally Posted by Ogrt48

The G6 isn't small at all, it's not going to fit in any normal pocket.
Sure the Rebel doesn't have a video mode, it's a dslr, but the G6's movie mode isn't that good, it's limited to 3 minutes and then only 30 seconds in the high quality mode.
No extra money on lenses isn't an advantage, you're stuck with that one lens with that camera.

G6 is small and light compared to DRebel is what i meant. I never said that it is gonna fit a pocket. It is obvious that a camera with the capabillity of G6 isnt going to fit any normal pocket. Still it is more easily carry-able that DRebel

G6 has a movie mode... That is what counts. It can take short clips and that is the purpose. Otherwise there are always better camcorders available for cheaper prices that the G6.

I agree with the lens part... u r stuck with the built in lens... But the built in lens is small enuf to snug into the body of the camera itself. In Drebel u have a thing protruding out always which makes ur carry bag size even larger...

All said and done... DRebel definitely takes better pictures than G6 is certain situations and it has better controls than G6. But the requirement of the person determines which camera to buy, coz not every one needs a DSLR.

[Ballen Photo]

Originally Posted by ethan's dad

I have a active two year old son and a very slow point and shoot kodak digital camera. I want grow my photographic abilty as my son develops ie football, baseball. I am also interested in a camera for photos at sporting events ( big Vols fan).
I am considering the G6 and the Rebel I have priced both on line for around 600.00. Any help would be appreciated.

Hi Ethans Dad. For your requirements, ie sports, and fast moving son, the answer is obvious to me. You need a camera with fast reflexes, and of the two you mentioned, the D-Rebel fills the bill much better.
Now, if you have the patience to anticipate, and or set your shots up, then the more compact G-6 could be a contender.
I have both the 10D and a G-5, and I wouldn't want to give up either one, as they both have their own set of advantages. I carry the G-5 when I cant be bothered to carry extra lenses and such, as well as not having to worry about changing lenses in dusty environments.In the end I feel either one would be a fine choice, but I think you'll appreciate the speed of the DSLR more for your intended purpose. Mount a 50mm lens on it and you'll have quite a bit more lens speed as well.
-Bruce

[ethan's dad]

I decided to go with the Drebel with the included lens kit and a 1g flash card.It should be here in a couple of days. I am now looking at zoom lenses any suggestions? I have been looking at the EF 75-300 or the 70-200 f/4L. What would be better for the money.

[Ogrt48]

The 75-300 is a very slow lens, its also soft, go with the L.

[catcher in the rye]

".....All said and done... DRebel definitely takes better pictures than G6 is certain situations and it has better controls than G6. ..."

you kidding.
ITs NO TRUE.
defint.




and 7,1 pix vs 6,3 pix
and light lens of G6 ( 2,0 !!) vs dark one of 300 D

Canon 300 D
6.3 million effective pixels Average rating
Construction 4.22
Features 4.23
Image quality 4.63 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Ease of use 4.54
Value for money 4.64
Overall 4.45



Canon G6
7.1 million effective pixels
35 mm - 140 mm (4x) zoom Average rating (23 responses)

Construction 4.41
Features 4.63
Image quality 4.78 ( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Ease of use 4.57
Value for money 4.57
Overall 4.59






choose 300 D
-if you want dark photos !

[Ogrt48]

Catcher, wtf are you smoking?

[catcher in the rye]

og. - dont be nervous..
-- I must tell you- I saw yesterday photos of 300 D,from my friend.
--and it was difficult to believe how problematic they were.
afternoon ,on the beach ., good light and......I CANT to believe..- it was like no ANY white balance in this camera..- almost ALL grey and without contrast, and very soft. -- well., I saw simmilar problem in Nikon D70 few weeks ago. - believe me ! - I havnt any intention to write about.- but I dont know WHy this going on !!! - I remember I was using the SAME LENS at analog Nikon 90x and IT WAS ABSOLUTELY OTHER !!!( the same situation with standard Canon lens in 1. --- its something wrong on the line analog.- digital ??!!!- THE SAME LENS - and MUCH MUCH worst results !!- believe me ., I was ashamed to comment my friends photos.

- so thats the reason I vote for dedicat. lens of G6.

[Ogrt48]

I've had the G6 and Rebel.. The Rebel beats the G6 easily even with it's kit lens in image quality..
Then again they're different types of cameras for people with different needs...

[RhoXS]

I had a G3 and lost it. I replaced it with a digital SLR (Nikon D70). The digital SLR's are definetly superior picture taking engines in almost all respects, but, because of their size, they do not have the great utility that the G series offers. When my wife and I travel, the G3 conveniently fits in my jacket pocket (albeit not pants pocket). It also takes great pictures (the G6 will do even better). I missed its utility so much that I just replaced it with a used G3 and now have both the D70 and G3.

The G3 and G5 do have a very major drawback that I understand has been fixed to some extent in the G6. The auto focus system sucks. If there is any consequential relative motion between the camera and the subject the autofocus system fails and the camera will not take the picture. With the G3, I have been unable to take spontaneous photos of our grandchildren if they are moving, as is usually the case with spontaneous photos of young kids. I have lost great sports pics of our grandkids sliding into first, etc. Pics from a moving vehicle just don't happen. The D70 (and I suspect the Digital Rebel also) handles these pics with little problem.

The G3/G5 default to ASA 50 (I think the G6 does also but I am not sure). In any case, any increase in ISO will result in unacceptable (IMO) noise due to the small sensors. The digital SLRs have a relatively huge sensor and are capable of much higher effective film speeds with minimal noise. The slowest D70 ISO is 200. Last spring I set it to its max ASA (1600) to take pics at my nephews indoor graduation. The pics were surprisingly good with minimal noise degradation. I was also able to mount a 450mm (35mm equiv) tele, something obviously impossible with the G series.

In other words the G6 vs Digital Rebel decision is a trade off. Only you can decide which is best for your needs. I got lucky (sort of) and lost my G3, replaced it with a D70, and then found a pristine used G3. I got the best of both worlds (except for my wife's complaints about what I recently spent on the used G3).