Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies. Read More.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Sample Photo Archives Lens Sample Photo Archive 
Thread started 03 May 2008 (Saturday) 17:55
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Tamron SP AF70-200mm F/2.8 Di LD (IF) Macro

 
AngryCorgi
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 03, 2008 17:55 |  #1

I went down to the Dallas World Aquarium today to give the Tammy a first run through. I spent some time last night playing with it to become familiar with it, prior to actually use. My first obvious reactions are:

Pros:
*Cheap! (US$700)
*Solid feel. Despite the extensive plastics used, it feels very well built.
*It comes standard with a tripod collar, hood, and decent case.
*The AF motor is faster and more precise acting than I expected.

Cons:
*AF motor still makes more noise than any USM/HSM drive.
*No IS/VC, and no current rumour of one making it as a future option.
*Typical Tammy hood (some people don't like felt, but for those who do...)

Okay, so there is my thinking prior to sleeping last night. Today I spent two hours at the Aquarium with my new Tammy on my 5D. I spent almost the entire time with it on (though I did get some lensbaby shots and contax too). In one-shot AF use, the AF motor jumps to the focus area, then seems to shift into a 1/3 speed mode to fine-tune the focus. This is great, but there is a problem...

Con:
*No focus-limiter switch! (Why?)

...and that problem shows up anytime you shoot something medium range then shoot somethingmore distant, as the goofy lens draws back to the macro range before giving up and looking elsewhere. Why Tamron built a lens with class-leading macro functionality and no focus-limiter is beyond my understanding. I would have paid the extra $25 for the switch/circuit to keep it from digging in the macro range.

Next its time to test the servo mode and answer those who say "I can't rely on anything but USM/HSM for tracking/servo use". I would have agreed with you before (and still to a point), but this lens keeps up fine with moving subjects (assuming your AF system in your camera will cope) in servo & AI-servo mode. It stays in the previously mentioned fine-tune AF motor speed and tracks along without much issue. It seems like people got by before without USM/HSM, so I guess I might survive without the luxury.

I shot some photos of monkeys (or tamarins, not sure) nestled in trees and switched to MF to keep a lock on them and not little surrounding twigs (the twigs fool the AF occasionally, but my eyes don't bite...too much ;)). The AF/MF clutch mechanism is functionally similar to Tokina's implementation and actually was easy to shift in and out of. The ring spins in AF with no interaction, just free-wheeling. The focus path is shortin MF mode, but not too short, IMO. It is a less dampened, though, than you would expect. It is looser than any 70-200 in the Canon line-up. That being said, I had no problem focusing with the lens. I would prefer it be slightly more dampened, though.

Okay, so when I got home, I got a chance to see the optical quality. I shot primarily wide-open, as the lighting in the Aquarium is decent to poor, and only good outside in the penguin area (though today even it was darker than normal). Much of this is due to the tree coverage shading much of the light out and letting rays poke through here and there. Anyways, the images look pretty good. I've only sampled one 70-200/2.8L IS (my friend's) and it appears to be on par or better than that lens. I have to go by samples for now as I have not yet organized a proper sampling method (maybe tomorrow, time permitting) to test its characteristics at various apertures. I must say that the color seems very good from the camera, and the images are sharp. The one issue on the 5D that you may notice is the vignetting, particularly in the "closer to macro" shots at f/2.8. It's worth noting that I can't see any visible CA in the shots I took today. Penguins are black and white, so they serve as good CA tests. ;) I definitely feel that the lens is worth at least the $700 that it cost.

So, here are the first samples.

The first four are RAWs with no sharpening applied at any point, and I will supply full shots (resized), then 100% crops of in-focus areas. All were shot at f/2.8 and most are at 200mm.

#1...

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]


#2...
IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 03, 2008 17:56 |  #2

#3...

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]


#4...
IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 03, 2008 17:58 |  #3

And here are just some random other samples that are resized, all at f/2.8...

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]


IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]


IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]


IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]


IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Zansho
"I'd kill for a hot pink 40D"
Avatar
2,538 posts
Gallery: 9 photos
Likes: 658
Joined Feb 2008
Location: Austin, Tx
     
May 03, 2008 22:00 |  #4

Hmm. I'm not so sure I'm convinced enough to purchase this lens, I'll probably end up going after a sigma 70-200 2.8. Thanks for the review though!


http://www.michaeljsam​aripa.com (external link) creating beautiful images for myself, my clients, and the world. Shooting with a mix of Canon, Fuji, and Sony.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 03, 2008 23:36 |  #5

Zansho wrote in post #5455868 (external link)
Hmm. I'm not so sure I'm convinced enough to purchase this lens, I'll probably end up going after a sigma 70-200 2.8. Thanks for the review though!

I have heard good things about the Sigma, I am sure you will be happy going that way. ;)


AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
condyk
Africa's #1 Tour Guide
Avatar
20,886 posts
Likes: 19
Joined Mar 2005
Location: Birmingham, UK
     
May 04, 2008 02:12 |  #6

It definately looks like there is some potential there with nice rich, natural lookin' colours. Difficult lighting in some shots and probably needs stopping down a tad to sharpen up. Could be a very good monopd lens.

I'm thinking the Penguin CA shot should become a defacto standard for all lens tests. So the 'Rules needs to go and buy a few of them thar critters :-)


http://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1203740

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 04, 2008 08:50 |  #7

condyk wrote in post #5456773 (external link)
I'm thinking the Penguin CA shot should become a defacto standard for all lens tests. So the 'Rules needs to go and buy a few of them thar critters :-)

LOL

I probably could have taken one of these guys home and nobody would notice. They only had 4 of them (they used to have more than a dozen) and they were cleaning the penguin habitat at the time on the other side of the exhibit. I think the aquarium is wishing these messy beasties would go away. How do you ship a penguin after you acquire one? ;)

The lighting was irritating. I had to use spot metering and lock the metering before almost all the shots to get the exposure even close to good. The way the sun pokes through the trees, it's like a dark room with a bunch of spot lights everywhere. :-P


AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dorman
Goldmember
Avatar
4,661 posts
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Halifax, NS
     
May 04, 2008 09:02 |  #8

Corgi - this looks like a really great value lens. I've had the Tamron 17-50 and 28-75 and was pleased by both, and this looks like it would fall right in line. I've often thought about "downgrading" and going back to the Tamrons for their small size/weight, great optics, and lower cost. I was discussing it with two photog buddies of mine yesterday and they thought I was crazy to even consider it. :)



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 04, 2008 14:48 |  #9

Dorman wrote in post #5457752 (external link)
Corgi - this looks like a really great value lens. I've had the Tamron 17-50 and 28-75 and was pleased by both, and this looks like it would fall right in line. I've often thought about "downgrading" and going back to the Tamrons for their small size/weight, great optics, and lower cost. I was discussing it with two photog buddies of mine yesterday and they thought I was crazy to even consider it. :)

Well, if I were you, I'd hang on to the 70-200/2.8L IS you already have! This particular tammy might be an interesting choice for penny-pinchers who don't already have a fast lens with IS. I think IS is a luxury that you can develop a dependency on, and you may end up with a regret after buying the tammy or the sigma tele-zoom. I would say the construction of this lens is suprisingly good. If you liked the short zooms, you would probably love this one! ;)


AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dorman
Goldmember
Avatar
4,661 posts
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Halifax, NS
     
May 04, 2008 15:39 |  #10

I won't be changing my 70-200 IS, but I do regret letting my Tamron 17-50 go.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
carianoff
Senior Member
Avatar
611 posts
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Detroitish, Michigan
     
May 04, 2008 18:04 as a reply to  @ Dorman's post |  #11

Someone write In2photos and get one of these or start a group thread in the sample archive. I want to see a collection all in one place please.


My Flickr (external link)
My Arsenal & Info

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 04, 2008 19:14 |  #12

Here is a short-range shot at f/2.8 & 200mm...

IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 05, 2008 22:33 |  #13

Here's another CA testing shot...none that I can see!

@200mm & f/2.8

IMAGE: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2123/2470024166_b8edc96549_b.jpg

AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tee ­ Why
"Monkey's uncle"
Avatar
10,596 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Pasadena, CA
     
May 05, 2008 22:47 |  #14

Any chance of a comparison with a Canon 70-200 f2.8?


Gallery: http://tomyi.smugmug.c​om/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AngryCorgi
THREAD ­ STARTER
-Bouncing Boy- a POTN peion
Avatar
11,537 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Surrounded by bunnies, squirrels and a couple of crazy corgis in NoVA...
     
May 05, 2008 22:51 |  #15

Tee Why wrote in post #5468356 (external link)
Any chance of a comparison with a Canon 70-200 f2.8?

I am going to call a local friend and see if I can borrow his 70-200/2.8L IS for a few days. I can't garauntee he will say yes, but he probably will. I sold him a 1.4x-II TC a while back, so I might be able to test it too...but I am not sure if the recession in the rear of the tammy will accept the protruding Canon TCs. IT is only about 3/4" - 1" deep. I'll post back after I get a confirmation on both issues.


AngryCorgi (external link) (aka Tom) ...Tools...

...Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include it in a fruit salad...

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

185,260 views & 3 likes for this thread
Tamron SP AF70-200mm F/2.8 Di LD (IF) Macro
FORUMS Sample Photo Archives Lens Sample Photo Archive 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.0forum software
version 2.0 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Angester
673 guests, 266 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6430, that happened on Dec 03, 2017

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.