Will Canon make an IS Macro lens?

FlexiPack · 18th of May 2008 (Sun)

Do you think Canon (or 3rd party) is likely to make an Image Stabalised Macro lens?

Nikon has one, the 105mm VR. The Canon EF 100mm 2.8 macro is on my wish list. At the moment i'm having to rely on Kenko Extension Tubes with my 70-300mm IS. It works very well apart from the light fall off and the ridiculously short DOF.

I have to say the IS is almost a necessity with this setup. I realise that shutter speeds are low due to the light fall off from the tubes but i may wish to use tubes with a dedicated macro lens too. With most of my macro work it's not possible to use a tripod either.

I think Canon are behind Nikon in this respect. An IS 100mm macro lens - I'd pay more for that!

Jman13 · 18th of May 2008 (Sun)

I think eventually, yes, it'll happen. I'd love to see IS on a macro lens. Ultimately, I'd like to get a ring flash, which would ultimately negate the need for IS, but for natural light macros, it would be great. Canon and Nikon have kind of been going back and forth, copying their strengths (Canon's recent improvement in their wide angle lineup, the introduction of the 200 f/2 IS, and Nikon's VR superteles and tilt shift lenses.)

However, Canon still has a unique fixture in the DSLR world - the 65 MP-E. I was out shooting a few weeks ago and was talking shop with a Nikon shooter, and when we both started doing some macro shooting, he started talking about adapting the 65 MP-E for Nikon, and how he wishes he could use it. I suggested he buy a 10D or 20D and a 65 MP-E and it would be about the same as any conversion or such, and he said he'd probably do that....

JeffreyG · 18th of May 2008 (Sun)

Don't expect IS to help you much when shooting at actual macro distances. The blur you normally see in photography comes from rotational shake effects which cause large translation of the image on the sensor. IS combats that shake mode. At macro distances, direct translation of the camera itself (side to side, fore aft, up down) all cause blur as well. IS cannot correct this type of shaking.

If Canon added IS to the 100/2.8 it would be handy for the times one wants to use it as a short telephoto more than anything. It will not free macro shooters from flash rigs and tripods.

bloodfalls · 18th of May 2008 (Sun)

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Originally Posted by JeffreyG

Don't expect IS to help you much when shooting at actual macro distances. The blur you normally see in photography comes from rotational shake effects which cause large translation of the image on the sensor. IS combats that shake mode. At macro distances, direct translation of the camera itself (side to side, fore aft, up down) all cause blur as well. IS cannot correct this type of shaking.

If Canon added IS to the 100/2.8 it would be handy for the times one wants to use it as a short telephoto more than anything. It will not free macro shooters from flash rigs and tripods.

yup exactly. different effects

steved110 · 18th of May 2008 (Sun)

I have a knack of buying lenses jsut before they get uprated by Canon.

I got a 70-200 f/4, and within 2 months the IS version came out. I got a 100mm macro lens about 2 months ago.....

So it stands to reason that there will be a 100mm f/2.8 IS macro sooner rather than later, after all Canon has to keep up with Nikon, even if the lens fairy didn't snitch on me this time round...

FlexiPack · 22nd of May 2008 (Thu)

No wonder I couldn't find this thread it's been moved lol.

I found about the user CP

I hadn't thought about that Jeffrey interesting point.

Steve I've been saving for the 100 f/2.8 macro and I wouldn't be surprised if an IS version appeared not long after I get it - such is the way it goes!

Jim G · 22nd of May 2008 (Thu)

Well... Nikon had a 200mm f/2 VR first, now we have a 200mm f/2 IS... I'm sure eventually we'll end up with a 100mm f/2.8 IS eventually, too

Maybe they'll make it an L (there isn't an 100mm L yet) and charge us a stack more for it, too

Gabe63 · 26th of May 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexiPack

Do you think Canon (or 3rd party) is likely to make an Image Stabalised Macro lens?

Nikon has one, the 105mm VR. The Canon EF 100mm 2.8 macro is on my wish list. At the moment i'm having to rely on Kenko Extension Tubes with my 70-300mm IS. It works very well apart from the light fall off and the ridiculously short DOF.

I have to say the IS is almost a necessity with this setup. I realise that shutter speeds are low due to the light fall off from the tubes but i may wish to use tubes with a dedicated macro lens too. With most of my macro work it's not possible to use a tripod either.

I think Canon are behind Nikon in this respect. An IS 100mm macro lens - I'd pay more for that!

The 28-135 IS is a macro lens. Not a prime and it's slow but it says macro right on it.

ANGUS · 26th of May 2008 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe63

The 28-135 IS is a macro lens. Not a prime and it's slow but it says macro right on it.

Not a true macro though.

MrChad · 26th of May 2008 (Mon)

Why not do what half of every one with a Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR does....

Go buy the Canon dual element 77mm 500D filter lens for the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens?

Then you not only get a great tele for use you get a descent Macro with you anytime you pack the tele. And the filter is all of what $150?

If you have never owned a Macro lens VR/IS/OS is a bit useless the closer you get toward 1:1 ratio. It's most useful only at normal tele range. If you are serious about Macro you should invest in a good tripod anyway.

muscleflex · 27th of May 2008 (Tue)

macro shots are SUPPOSED to be shot WITH a tripod!!!! if you're serious about your macro shots, USE a tripod!
but then again, IS on a macro does make sense.... but seriously, it depends on how much gain canon will get out of IS on macros.

Mike55 · 27th of May 2008 (Tue)

"IS...it's better on the lens"

Ooops.

Colorblinded · 28th of May 2008 (Wed)

It definitely won't help with everything but it will help when using the lens under normal conditions and under moderately close range use. For true macro work nothing will replace a suitably fast shutter speed or tripod. I would definitely consider upgrading if they came out with one.

fxk · 15th of July 2008 (Tue)

Nikon has VR (IS) on a macro - and by most reports, in the macro range, it is virtually useless. YMMV.

FlexiPack · 18th of July 2008 (Fri)

That's interesting to know. I guess it would only be useful on non macro stuff like portraits.

18th of May 2008 (Sun)	#1
FlexiPack Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 731 IMAGE EDITING OK	Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? Do you think Canon (or 3rd party) is likely to make an Image Stabalised Macro lens? Nikon has one, the 105mm VR. The Canon EF 100mm 2.8 macro is on my wish list. At the moment i'm having to rely on Kenko Extension Tubes with my 70-300mm IS. It works very well apart from the light fall off and the ridiculously short DOF. I have to say the IS is almost a necessity with this setup. I realise that shutter speeds are low due to the light fall off from the tubes but i may wish to use tubes with a dedicated macro lens too. With most of my macro work it's not possible to use a tripod either. I think Canon are behind Nikon in this respect. An IS 100mm macro lens - I'd pay more for that! __________________ Body: 450D Lenses: Sigma EX 18-50mm 2.8 Macro; EF 50mm f/1.8 MKII; EF 100mm Macro f/2.8; EF 70-300mm IS; Zeiss S 135mm f/3.5; Accesories: 430EX; Vivitar 285; Kenko DG Extension Tubes;

18th of May 2008 (Sun)	#2
Jman13 Cream of the Crop Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,558	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? I think eventually, yes, it'll happen. I'd love to see IS on a macro lens. Ultimately, I'd like to get a ring flash, which would ultimately negate the need for IS, but for natural light macros, it would be great. Canon and Nikon have kind of been going back and forth, copying their strengths (Canon's recent improvement in their wide angle lineup, the introduction of the 200 f/2 IS, and Nikon's VR superteles and tilt shift lenses.) However, Canon still has a unique fixture in the DSLR world - the 65 MP-E. I was out shooting a few weeks ago and was talking shop with a Nikon shooter, and when we both started doing some macro shooting, he started talking about adapting the 65 MP-E for Nikon, and how he wishes he could use it. I suggested he buy a 10D or 20D and a 65 MP-E and it would be about the same as any conversion or such, and he said he'd probably do that.... __________________ Jordan Steele - http://www.jordansteele.com Admiring Light - http://www.admiringlight.com

18th of May 2008 (Sun)	#3
JeffreyG "my bits and pieces are all hard" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 13,543	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? Don't expect IS to help you much when shooting at actual macro distances. The blur you normally see in photography comes from rotational shake effects which cause large translation of the image on the sensor. IS combats that shake mode. At macro distances, direct translation of the camera itself (side to side, fore aft, up down) all cause blur as well. IS cannot correct this type of shaking. If Canon added IS to the 100/2.8 it would be handy for the times one wants to use it as a short telephoto more than anything. It will not free macro shooters from flash rigs and tripods. __________________ My personal stuff:http://www.flickr.com/photos/jngirbach/ Commercial sports:http://girbach.zenfolio.com/ I use a Canon 5D and 1DIV and a Panasonic GF-1 Gear List: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...postcount=1550

18th of May 2008 (Sun)	#5
steved110 Cream of the Crop Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Sussex UK Posts: 5,756 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? I have a knack of buying lenses jsut before they get uprated by Canon. I got a 70-200 f/4, and within 2 months the IS version came out. I got a 100mm macro lens about 2 months ago..... So it stands to reason that there will be a 100mm f/2.8 IS macro sooner rather than later, after all Canon has to keep up with Nikon, even if the lens fairy didn't snitch on me this time round... __________________ 20D, Eos 100 Canon EF-S 18-55 IS, Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 , Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 macro CanonEF 17-40 f/4 L and 70-200 f/4 L Speedlite 580EX and some bags'n pods'n stuff

22nd of May 2008 (Thu)	#6
FlexiPack Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 731 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? No wonder I couldn't find this thread it's been moved lol. I found about the user CP I hadn't thought about that Jeffrey interesting point. Steve I've been saving for the 100 f/2.8 macro and I wouldn't be surprised if an IS version appeared not long after I get it - such is the way it goes! __________________ Body: 450D Lenses: Sigma EX 18-50mm 2.8 Macro; EF 50mm f/1.8 MKII; EF 100mm Macro f/2.8; EF 70-300mm IS; Zeiss S 135mm f/3.5; Accesories: 430EX; Vivitar 285; Kenko DG Extension Tubes;

22nd of May 2008 (Thu)	#7
Jim G I feel thoroughly satisfied Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia. Posts: 12,249 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? Well... Nikon had a 200mm f/2 VR first, now we have a 200mm f/2 IS... I'm sure eventually we'll end up with a 100mm f/2.8 IS eventually, too Maybe they'll make it an L (there isn't an 100mm L yet) and charge us a stack more for it, too __________________ Gear List Reviews & Hotlinks: Domke F-3x - Pelican 1510/1514 & 1610/1614 - DIY Variable Length OC-E3 - Crumpler 6 Million Dollar Home - FA-100

26th of May 2008 (Mon)	#10
MrChad Goldmember Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 2,815	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? Why not do what half of every one with a Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR does.... Go buy the Canon dual element 77mm 500D filter lens for the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens? Then you not only get a great tele for use you get a descent Macro with you anytime you pack the tele. And the filter is all of what $150? If you have never owned a Macro lens VR/IS/OS is a bit useless the closer you get toward 1:1 ratio. It's most useful only at normal tele range. If you are serious about Macro you should invest in a good tripod anyway. __________________ I kaNt sPeL... [Gear List]

27th of May 2008 (Tue)	#11
muscleflex Goldmember Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,984 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? macro shots are SUPPOSED to be shot WITH a tripod!!!! if you're serious about your macro shots, USE a tripod! but then again, IS on a macro does make sense.... but seriously, it depends on how much gain canon will get out of IS on macros. __________________ Canon 1D MK III \| Canon EOS 20D \| Canon 16-35 II L \| Canon 100-400 L IS \| Canon 50mm II 1.8 \| Canon 580 EX II

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28th of May 2008 (Wed)	#13
Colorblinded Goldmember Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,075	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? It definitely won't help with everything but it will help when using the lens under normal conditions and under moderately close range use. For true macro work nothing will replace a suitably fast shutter speed or tripod. I would definitely consider upgrading if they came out with one. __________________ http://www.thecolorblindphotographer.com Last edited by Colorblinded : 8th of June 2008 (Sun) at 22:51.

15th of July 2008 (Tue)	#14
fxk Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The vast wilderness of the Mid-Atlantic states Posts: 578	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? Nikon has VR (IS) on a macro - and by most reports, in the macro range, it is virtually useless. YMMV.

18th of July 2008 (Fri)	#15
FlexiPack Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 731 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Will Canon make an IS Macro lens? That's interesting to know. I guess it would only be useful on non macro stuff like portraits. __________________ Body: 450D Lenses: Sigma EX 18-50mm 2.8 Macro; EF 50mm f/1.8 MKII; EF 100mm Macro f/2.8; EF 70-300mm IS; Zeiss S 135mm f/3.5; Accesories: 430EX; Vivitar 285; Kenko DG Extension Tubes;

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