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May 22, 2008 10:21 |  #1

I posted this in the 50mm F1.8 archive and wanted to see what people find that is wrong with it. I am always looking to get better so here it is.

IMAGE: http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/nicolas41390/_MG_7407.jpg
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And just because I feel like bragging about my 50mm- 100% crop.:cool:
IMAGE: http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/nicolas41390/kira100crop.jpg

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May 22, 2008 15:55 |  #2

Hey Fox,
Personally I think it's a pretty good shot...but then I'm still learning this whole portrait thing myself. Most of my comments are just nits really...I think I might have used a little more light on the background, or just a different color background and the framing is just a tich off to the side. The model is just a little off to the left in the frame (easy enough to fix with a quick crop). Also and albeit this is a bit subjective too, I think seeing the model smile a little would have been nice too....this model kind of has that "I can't believe you're making me sit here for more pictures" look, LOL! The only other thing I'm seeing that pulls my attention is there's a bit of a shadow there by the models left eye...I think it's from the hair. Not sure what your setup was, but a slight reposition on the fill light might have fixed this, otherwise it'd be an easy touch up in pp.

I have one of those Canon "nifty fifties" as well and it's a great portrait lens...very sharp lens for the price.

Good work in my opinion,
Jim


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May 22, 2008 17:09 |  #3

I see, thanks for the hints. I shall post more in a new thread if you would like to comment on those.


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May 22, 2008 18:08 as a reply to The Fox's post |  #4

Need to get the eyes off the center (50%) line..




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May 22, 2008 22:54 |  #5

i think more directional light would help give it depth


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Jul 10, 2008 17:23 |  #6

This is what happens when I find that I can do things in photoshop.

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Jul 10, 2008 18:11 |  #7

Here's my attempt. I tried to soften the shinier parts of the face. If they're not wearing any make-up, it might help to have them wash their face to reduce that shininess.

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Jul 10, 2008 18:24 |  #8

IMAGE NOT FOUND IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
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I did some softening and some other stuff... I may have gone a little to far on the softening.

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Jul 10, 2008 18:29 |  #9

What did you do if I might ask so I can try if on the psd that I have saved and use it in the future.


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Jul 11, 2008 12:41 |  #10

i didn't know there was a 50 1.8L


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Jul 11, 2008 17:04 |  #11

There isn't. Mine is just so sharp, I put a red ring between the filter and barrel(with an o-ring) to make it an "L". I will never get another 50mm, this is too sharp sometime.


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Jul 11, 2008 21:36 |  #12

I'm always more than happy to see a 100% crop. It's our only look into the image at the level of detail that you can see on your system.

For a portrait, I don't like the multiple catchlights in the eyes, nor do I like such a large catchlight. However, there are times when you can't seem to avoid it. In this case the lighting is too short - thin to none shadows. So, it loses the battle of giving 3-dimensionality to the portrait by not bringing out the facial contours.

The one shadow, just to the right of her nose, is not much help.

Sorry, it all loses because of poor lighting.


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Jul 15, 2008 16:37 |  #13

Basically, there the fill (I was only using 2 lights) was set to high and removed most of the shadows? How could I have done this porperly for future reference? Like removing the catchights, and how to fix the shadowing problem.
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Jul 15, 2008 18:12 |  #14

The Fox wrote in post #5916936external link
Basically, there the fill (I was only using 2 lights) was set to high and removed most of the shadows? How could I have done this porperly for future reference? Like removing the catchights, and how to fix the shadowing problem.
Nick

Yes, the fill light was too much and caused the loss of shadows.

Using ordinary cloning tools should facilitate removal of one catchlight and reduction in size of the other.

An understanding of good classical lighting techniques can be pursued in the literature, and everone has a different approach. The approach used in the following link is simple and concise.

*************Studio Portrait Lighting**************​*
Tutorial on Studio Portrait Lighting Using Two Lights, with Emphasis on Rembrandt Lighting:
http://www.zaffora.com​/W9DMK/PortraitLightin​g.htmexternal link
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Jul 16, 2008 01:01 |  #15

Thank you much. I will play around when I get school in the studio.
Nick


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