Do you think full body shot using 85mm wide open will kill the shot?

NicholasBB · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

Hi Gang,

Do you think using the canon prime 85mm 1.2 fully open for a full body shot, (not head shoulders) will kill the shot?

quick and easy question i hope

Thanks

NicholasBB

PhotosGuy · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

"Full body" arranged how & how far from the camera? Shoot a few tests & see what you get.

NicholasBB · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

Hi Photos guy,
Well pose i would assume would have to be fairly flat , front on considering the DOF issues at 1.2, distance, well basically to get her in the view finder full body, or perhaps above the knee., im guessing ill have to be about 10meters or so back, but great idea... test shots!!, but again thanks for the tip, and anyone else who have some ideas or experience with this lens, id love to hear from you.

NicholasBB

Mike · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

Have you looked at the image archive for the 85L? There's a few full body shots there shot wide open. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=224258

iamaelephant · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

I'm not sure what you mean by "kill the shot"?

MikeT · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

My guess is he wants her completely infocus, I could be wrong though.

adam LC · 24th of May 2008 (Sat)

If your talking about DOF, then it's just down to the distance from the subject. Focal length itself isn't really an issue.

NicholasBB · 25th of May 2008 (Sun)

"My guess is he wants her completely infocus, I could be wrong though."

Exactly, im a bit woried that with the narrow of depth of field, i would loose alot of sharpeness, I think if the pose was fairly flat, it might not be an issue, but again would not be such a flatering pose right?

NicholasBB

NicholasBB · 25th of May 2008 (Sun)

Hi Again,

i had a look at the link for the images taken by the prime 85mm 1.2 telephoto, most of the photos loaded, but there is no full body shots. at the most there was a photo taken by andmy172 that is shot just above the waist. Several of the photos did not load or seem to be removed.

Thanks anyway,

NicholasBB

tzalman · 25th of May 2008 (Sun)

You do not say what camera you will be using or what size print you will be making, both of which affect DOF. However, with an 85 mm. on a 1.6 crop camera in portrait orientation you will need a distance of about 7 meters for a full length shot. According to http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html the total DOF will be 0.3m., 0.15m. front and back. Stopping down to f/1.8 would give you better performance from the lens and another 0.15 of DOF.

NicholasBB · 25th of May 2008 (Sun)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzalman

You do not say what camera you will be using or what size print you will be making, both of which affect DOF. However, with an 85 mm. on a 1.6 crop camera in portrait orientation you will need a distance of about 7 meters for a full length shot. According to http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html the total DOF will be 0.3m., 0.15m. front and back. Stopping down to f/1.8 would give you better performance from the lens and another 0.15 of DOF.

Thanks for your reply Sir,

Camera type is Canon 40d. For prints I aiming to acheive nice crisp A4 size. Will be shooting RAW and largest file size.

Your comments are an excellent guide which a pretty easy for me to get my head around. I have to be honest, technical aspects realy do confuse me. lol

Anyway, ill battle on, trying to get the best shots i can for the upcoming shoot. I look forward to posting the results for the people who have given me help to see. I am also realy nervous about this too, but ill be ready for honest feedback.

Cheers,

NicholasBB

cdifoto · 25th of May 2008 (Sun)

Why don't you just make it easier on yourself and stop the lens down. At least then you can pose her in ways (yeah, that's plural) that actually make sense and do her body justice.

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NicholasBB Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 163	Do you think full body shot using 85mm wide open will kill the shot? Hi Gang, Do you think using the canon prime 85mm 1.2 fully open for a full body shot, (not head shoulders) will kill the shot? quick and easy question i hope Thanks NicholasBB

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NicholasBB Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 163	Re: Do you think full body shot using 85mm wide open will kill the shot? Hi Photos guy, Well pose i would assume would have to be fairly flat , front on considering the DOF issues at 1.2, distance, well basically to get her in the view finder full body, or perhaps above the knee., im guessing ill have to be about 10meters or so back, but great idea... test shots!!, but again thanks for the tip, and anyone else who have some ideas or experience with this lens, id love to hear from you. NicholasBB

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NicholasBB Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 163	Re: Do you think full body shot using 85mm wide open will kill the shot? "My guess is he wants her completely infocus, I could be wrong though." Exactly, im a bit woried that with the narrow of depth of field, i would loose alot of sharpeness, I think if the pose was fairly flat, it might not be an issue, but again would not be such a flatering pose right? NicholasBB

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tzalman Fatal attraction. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel Posts: 10,824 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Do you think full body shot using 85mm wide open will kill the shot? You do not say what camera you will be using or what size print you will be making, both of which affect DOF. However, with an 85 mm. on a 1.6 crop camera in portrait orientation you will need a distance of about 7 meters for a full length shot. According to http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html the total DOF will be 0.3m., 0.15m. front and back. Stopping down to f/1.8 would give you better performance from the lens and another 0.15 of DOF. __________________ Elie / אלי "If you presume to love something, you must love the process of it much more than you love the finished product." John Irving, 5/2012. "In theory there is no difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is." Yogi Berra Site

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