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The New Sony Alpha A-350

 
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Jun 05, 2008 07:45 |  #1

What do you guys think about the new sony alpha dslr a-350 and the ability to take pictures using either the viewfinder or the liveview screen. Does it point the way for the other camera manufactures (i.e. Canon & Nikon) need to go with their products, or is the viewfinder only option going to remain the realm of the higher end dslr's.
I understand the reasoning behind the camera is to capture the p&s crowd who are looking to move up to a dslr but really dont want to give up the viewfinder for taking photos.
How many of you would be tempted to buy a canon that gave you both options v's the viewfinder only option?


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Jun 05, 2008 07:47 |  #2

i thought the new canon models did that already ie: 40d 450d 1d mk 111 etc
i thought they all had live view on the screen


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Jun 05, 2008 07:47 |  #3

digirebelva wrote in post #5664418external link
What do you guys think about the new sony alpha dslr a-350 and the ability to take pictures using either the viewfinder or the liveview screen. Does it point the way for the other camera manufactures (i.e. Canon & Nikon) need to go with their products, or is the viewfinder only option going to remain the realm of the higher end dslr's.
I understand the reasoning behind the camera is to capture the p&s crowd who are looking to move up to a dslr but really dont want to give up the viewfinder for taking photos.
How many of you would be tempted to buy a canon that gave you both options v's the viewfinder only option?

I think the Sony Live View system is by far the best Live View DSLR system on the market at present. With that said, aside from maybe Macro work or real awkward composition angles, I would never use Live View... Once you get the ability to look thru the lens, you'll never wanna look back.


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Jun 05, 2008 07:50 |  #4

markyb wrote in post #5664425external link
i thought the new canon models did that already ie: 40d 450d 1d mk 111 etc
i thought they all had live view on the screen

But can they take pictures using the liveview only (i.e. auto focusing etc.)

I know the 450d can't and am pretty sure the 40d can't either, not sure about the 1d or higher


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digirebelva wrote in post #5664444external link
But can they take pictures using the liveview only (i.e. auto focusing etc.)

I know the 450d can't and am pretty sure the 40d can't either, not sure about the 1d or higher

Wrong.
Both 40D and 450D can auto-focus in Live View mode.


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Hermeto wrote in post #5664453external link
Wrong.
Both 40D and 450D can auto-focus in Live View mode.

I stand corrected:)


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Jun 05, 2008 08:00 as a reply to digirebelva's post |  #7

I thought the problem with Sony's Live View is that you can't zoom to 100% to check focus, whereas Canon's can (or "You can with a Canon" as they used to say years ago :)).

The other thing that bugs me is the "14.2 megapixels" plastered on the front (see hereexternal link). It just makes it look...cheap, P&S


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Jun 05, 2008 08:01 |  #8

sadowsk2 wrote in post #5664430external link
I think the Sony Live View system is by far the best Live View DSLR system on the market at present. With that said, aside from maybe Macro work or real awkward composition angles, I would never use Live View... Once you get the ability to look thru the lens, you'll never wanna look back.

Live View is not a good choice for macro work because critical focus in LV is not accurate enough, however there are other productive uses of LV.

In the studio, setting up lighting and camera angles using LV is very convenient, especially with exposure simulation turned on. Then switch to the VF for final composition and focus.

LV is also great for monochrome work. I often set the Picture Style to Monochrome and then view the image in B&W before the shot.

Like many other camera functions, LV is a tool you may not use every day (although I do), but it's nice have when situation warrants. It was never designed to replace the VF.




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qtaran111 wrote in post #5664496external link
The other thing that bugs me is the "14.2 megapixels" plastered on the front (see hereexternal link). It just makes it look...cheap, P&S

Remember they are going after the p&s crowd who tend to gravitiate towards those "numbers"..;)


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Jun 05, 2008 08:10 |  #10

hommedars wrote in post #5664500external link
Like many other camera functions, LV is a tool you may not use every day (although I do), but it's nice have when situation warrants. It was never designed to replace the VF.

Which makes me wonder if that is the reason Canon does not heavily promote the feature in its cameras...the way that Sony is in their advertisements..its front & center


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Jun 05, 2008 08:27 |  #11

sadowsk2 wrote in post #5664430external link
I think the Sony Live View system is by far the best Live View DSLR system on the market at present. With that said, aside from maybe Macro work or real awkward composition angles, I would never use Live View... Once you get the ability to look thru the lens, you'll never wanna look back.

Agreed....I find i take much better pics looking thru the viewfinder. I have tried before and follwing your subject seems much harder to compose a pic also.




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Jun 05, 2008 08:30 |  #12

rhodesx6 wrote in post #5664624external link
Agreed....I find i take much better pics looking thru the viewfinder. I have tried before and follwing your subject seems much harder to compose a pic also.

Plus you look like a tool holding the camera at arm's length trying to take a pic!:)


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Jun 05, 2008 08:32 |  #13

LeeSC wrote in post #5664637external link
Plus you look like a tool holding the camera at arm's length trying to take a pic!:)

Yeah try that with a 400mm...better be into body building:D


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Jun 05, 2008 08:39 |  #14

LeeSC wrote in post #5664637external link
Plus you look like a tool holding the camera at arm's length trying to take a pic!:)

Well........yeah then there is that!!:D




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Jun 05, 2008 08:40 as a reply to digirebelva's post |  #15

i wouldn't like to go back to focusing on the screen after using viewfinder all this time
just come back from a week on the isle of skye and i was asked by a group of foreign tourists if i would take a group photo with a p&s that they were using.
i felt stupid with arms stretched out in front of me looking at the screen


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